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Discussion in 'Desktop & Laptop Computers Forum' started by THFC, Aug 9, 2003.

  1. THFC

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    Current system - 1.2Mhz Athlon, 384mb DDr pc 2100, geforce 2 gts graphics, gigabyte Ga7dx mobo v2.2, 60Gb quantum fireball HD

    Had system 2 years in need of an upgrade. Primarily used for games and home DV use.

    On C+C generals and in general use i have begun to notice the system slowing.

    Only want a minor upgrade not too expensive to last me a year or two. Any comments on the following -

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    Upgrade chip to Xp 2000 at 1.66Mhz. Current fan noisy also - upgrade £40 + fan and heat sink. (any comments on overclocking and fan's etc appreciated and how to fit).

    My mobo guide says Xp 2000 my limit will not support Xp2600+ (fastest 266 chip, i think). Currently no extra fans/coolers on my system.

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    Upgrade graphics card. Seen a geforce 4 ti 4800se from simply computers for £125. cannot justify spending £200 +. Would rather upgrade to a middle of road card again in the future.

    gainward 4800


    If anyone has any better ideas let me know i know very little about systems.

    i wish to upgrade to a new monitor in the future and also to purchase another hard drive.

    Currently Nec HR17 CRT monitor has lines across the screen. On a white background they are highly visible. The screen above and below that is blurred.(not sure if monitor or graphics card) Looking for a DVi input 15" TFT. Is the Lg 1510p the one to go for, especially 4 games?

    Also want a 60gb hard drive. Currently looking at the maxtor diamondmax plus at £52 or the WD caviar 60Gb special edition (bit pricier). Any comments appreciated. No one else to ask and can't trust Pc world. Can i run an ata 133 maxtor drive on a ata 100 mobo?

    Also have a 235w FSP psu. Quiet a good point. Will this suffice for my upgrades. I will have 2 H/Drives, a CD/RW a DVD Rom drive. Motherboard, 2 sticks RAM, PCI firewire, PCi Tv card and Pci sound card. Also monitor, CPU and AGP Graphics card and USB Modem.

    Cheers
     
  2. HMHB

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    One of my computers has an Asus A7v motherboard which theoretically has a limit of just over 1GHz for the processor. I've just stuck in an Athlon 2400 with no problem. It might be worth doing a search for forums specific to your motherboard to find out the true limit. I've also put in a Leadtek Ti4200 and it's increased the performance quite a lot from my old Geforce2 GTS. I mainly use that computer for driving games and the performance increase was quite significant.
     
  3. james.miller

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    go for an overclocking combo of you want to save money.

    GRAPHICS CARD

    dont bother with the ti4800se. get a ti4200 instead - they should be around £85-£90 now, and they will easily overclock to and beyond the stock performance of a ti4800se (which is really a ti4400 with 8xAGP - useless)

    CPU

    Next is the cpu. Look no further than an xp1700+ "dlt3c". i have one that can be concidered "just above average" for its stepping. It does 2.4ghz which is faster than an xp3200+ (2.2ghz). http://www.cpucity.co.uk usually has them, though they dont at the moment. Just make sure its a garunteed "dlt3c". Trust me, its worth it.

    So thats around £120-£135 for the cpu and graphics card.

    MOTHERBOARD

    i would also recommend a new motherboard to take advantage of the cpu and graphics card. Any nforce2-based board will do - something like the asus an78x-x
    http://komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?action=info&p=36789&t=845&l=2&AvdID=1&CatID=10&GrpID=5&s=pl - £59.95 which is excellent value.

    HEATSINK

    for the heatsink, i suggest the sk-7 from www.overclockers.co.uk. Thermalright sk and slk series are the best money can buy. THe slk-800 is a top performer, but it's not really worth the price concidering how cheap the sk-7 is.
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Thermalright_120.html
    Remeber you'll need a fan for that sink - i'd go for the thermaltake smartfanII


    WANT TO SPEND MORE?

    now, if you want to spend a little more than that. Then id suggest going with an ati r9600pro 128mb, from here:
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Sapphire_143.html - £131. It will completly destroy any gf4 ti with the eye candy on (fsaa and af)

    And, also, this motherboard:http://komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?action=info&p=34155&t=845&l=2&AvdID=1&CatID=10&GrpID=5&s=pl
    The abit nf7-s version 2. Widely regarded as the best amd motherboard you can buy.


    PSU

    ......because you will need a new one.
    Now, if you chose the abit nf7-s motherboard, i reccomend the enermax EG365AX-VE from here: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Enermax_111.html
    Its main strength is its available current on the 12v rail, which suits the nf7 perfectly because it uses the 12v rail to supply the power to the cpu, unlike 99% of the rest of the amd motherboards that use the 5v rail

    If you choose the asus, then id go for the Antec TruePower 330W PSU
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Antec_103.html

    LASTLY, THE RAM

    if you going for the asus, get this:
    http://komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?action=info&p=27378&t=1014&l=2&AvdID=1&CatID=17&GrpID=9&s=pl
    512mb of twinmos pc3200. Its cheap, and works very well. It actually uses the same chips as the more expensive corsair xms pc3200, even though the twinmos is cheaper.

    if your going for the abit, then get 2x256mb sticks of twinmos pc3200. This will allow you to take advantage of the "dual channel" ram feature of the nforce2 boards, which will gain you 5-10% performance over single channel. (the asus an78x-x doesnt have dual channel as its based on the value version of the nforce2 chipset)


    I think thats all lol
     
  4. cyberheater

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    Are you going to sell your 1200 AMD cpu. If so. How much?
     

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