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Discussion in 'Hi-Fi Stereo Systems & Separates' started by Nik555, Jan 17, 2005.

  1. Nik555

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    Hi guys,

    Im looking to get a set of separates and speakers, it is going to be placed in the front room and be intergrated into my Loewe Nemos 32 and Sky box and Xbox.

    I needs to play the radio, CD's, DVD's the Xbox and it needs to have very good sound quality and very be powerful.

    Would I be right in thinking I would need a CD Player, DVD player, AV Amplifer? Not sure what a Pre amp is so if anyone could guide me in the right direction with good quality brands it would be much apreciated.

    I saw some Arcam separates in Sevonoaks and they looked pretty good?

    I can go up to £5000 including cables.

    Thanks in advance, Nik
     
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    Nooone?
     
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    Do you want surround sound or 2 channel?

    This is probably the wrong forum if you are after AV gear, but right for a CD player.
    AV amps arent known for their musical abilities.

    How big is your room & it's shape?

    I'd recommend going for an excellent stereo setup (2channel), then if you want surround, maybe buying a Yamaha DSP-E800 processor (gives you the rear channels whilst still using your stereo amp for fronts), 2 rear speakers, a centre, sub & DVD player. Allow maybe £1500 for that. That'd leave £3500 for a lovely CD player, Amplifier and two speakers

    How does that sound?
     
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    Hi mate,

    Thanks for the reply.....

    The room is rectangular with a fire place in the centre with an alcove either side. Size is rougly 4 metres x 3 metres.

    Not sure exactly what you are saying, (very new!) but sounds good so could you explain to me a bit more about this AV thing and all the amps you were talking about.

    Thank you very much, Nik
     
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    How much do you listen to music, and watch films percentage wise. If you're mostly watching movies and rarely listen to CDs then I wouldn't bother going for an ace stereo only setup.
     
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    Well I watch more DVD's than play music and I reckon the percentage would be 70/30.

    Nik
     
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    Nil, with that much cash I would get a TAG AV32R-bp192 with DAB radio option (about £1200 second hand, from about £3000), a good 5 channel power amp (Primare, Nad silverline, Krell etc, maybe £1500, less if you go second hand/ex dem) and then add a good DVD player to handle dvds and cds (£800 ish). Leaves you with £1500 for speakers which you would want to go to a few places and demo as speakers can have the most dramatic effect on your sound. Does this budget include speakers as well? (For a full av system you would need 5 speakers and maybe a sub as well!)

    Liam.
     
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    DVD - Something along the lines of Pioneer 757? (£600) I'm not too hot on DVD players. I have a cheap one (£100 Slightly modified ;) Sony) connected to a high end external DAC total cost £200 (nothing sub £3000 can touch it for stereo :cool:

    PMC FB1/Ctr/DB1rear series Speakers £2000 ex dem. Beautifully finished and very neutral speakers.

    Linn AV5103 Pre/Processor - £1000 S/H - Good upgrade path will take inputs from the XBox etc.

    Linn AV 5125 5 channel Power amp - £850 S/H

    Densen Beat 800 Tuner - Best you can get! - £800 new £450 S/H

    Speaker cable - Either Cat5 or Simple twin and earth - £30 inc termination. (Equivilent to Chord, QED etc IMHO)

    Interconnects - Mark Grant on this forum. Probably around £80 (Good quality, well made cables (the good thing is he doesn't charge £400 a piece) - That's all you need)
    If you can get past the must have expensive cables hurdle you'll save a fortune!

    Should come in at a little over £5000 with good haggling you could do it on the budget.

    Of course all this is based on a large room!
    The AV5103 would give you a good upgrade path if at any stage you wished to power the fronts, rears and centre seperately. This system would also be very good for 2 channel duties.

    This is a system which I know performs well. However with your budget there are others that may suit you better.
    The trick is to get as many ideas as possible and find a few friendly dealers and arrange to demo your shortlist. You will be restricted to what they stock unless you're willing to travel. Just remember you''re the one who has to live with your choice!

    If you're prepared to go second hand on Amplifiers (You're usually safe - there's not much to go wrong!) and ex dem (with warranty) on speakers and DVD you'll get something very special for your £5000.

    I've left the Sub out. It's something that can be added later if funds allow. You may find you don't need one!

    I hope this is of some use to you.

    Knight
     
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    How about
    ED Hull Arcam DV27A Multi Region DVD Audio Player silver £999.95
    ED Tunbridge Wells Arcam DV27A Multi Region DVD Audio Player Silver £1,199.00

    with

    ED Solihull Denon AVCA1SRA Home Cinema Receiver Gold £1,999.00
    ED Wolverhampton Denon AVC-A1SRA Home Cinema Amplifier GOLD £1,800.00

    Above taken from www.ssav.com

    That would be a great combo for both cd & dvd playback and leaves 2k for speakers & sub
     
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    No problem mate.

    Basically - imagine that you had a nice 2 channel set up - CD player, Stereo amp & front speakers - and decided that you wanted surround, but didnt want to change your amp. In comes the Yamaha DSP-E800, which basically runs through a tape loop, therefore being able to send the sound that it processes back into your stereo amp, so that it runs the front speakers with the required sound from the DVD player, and the processor takes care of the rear 3 channels (and your DVD player, vdr etc plugs into the processor :) )

    For a room of your size, I'd advise high quality standmount speakers - as floorstanders will be overkill.

    This will give you the best of both worlds imho.

    Get yourself down to a sevenoaks or local hifi specialist and listen to a few brands.

    For your kind of budget I'd be looking at some nice B&W speakers (Nautilus 805 standmounts for the front if you can stretch to them otherwise the 700 series is meant to be excellent too! ) and some of the quality Hifi brands such as Arcam, Linn, Naim etc :)

    Have fun ;)
     

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