Help with PC spec.

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  1. clanger

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    Hi,

    I want a gaming PC that'll do justice to the likes of GTL, i.e. demanding 3D graphics.

    The basic spec for GTL is (I believe):

    2 GHz Intel Pentium IV or equivalent
    RAM: 1024 MB
    Video Memory: 256 MB
    Hard Drive Space: 2500 MB
    DirectX 9.0c compatible graphics card MB
    DirectX compatible sound card

    I'm told rendering GTL's graphics to max detail requires some serious computer wellie.

    Could any of you who 'know about this kind of thing' suggest what specifically to look for/avoid, or even recommend a particular machine.

    Don't want to build my own.
    Don't need monitor
    Will want to be able to plug into TV

    I assume cheap machines probably mean poor quality bits, so what's a reasonable price...£1200?
     
  2. booyaka

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    If it is mainly for gaming purposes then AMD is currently the best route to go.

    However the apperance of some of the new (not yet avaliable intel conroe chips) may change that idea.

    What monitor have you got currently?

    You would be better (if possible) to consider a self built system, because as you stated, buying "off the shelf" so to speak - you have no idea what type of components are inside the pc.

    If no monitor needed, do you need keyboard, mouse, speakers etc?

    £1200 would get you a fair monster of a machine if not needing monitor.

    Try looking at www.cclonline.co.uk
    www.pcspecialist.co.uk
    www.meshcomputers.co.uk
    www.scan.co.uk
    etc for some ideas of cost.

    Self build would be the best way cause you can then select the exact components you wish/want and would get much better value for money.

    It's not that difficult to self build (it's only about 5/6 single items to fit together)

    If not look for 2gb ram, probably at least 200GB of storage, dual core CPU (assuming you are spending £1200!!), graphics cards probably X1900 ATi card, any decent make of motherboard, and a good power supply (don;t skimp here!!).

    Have a look and post up some specs. good luck.
     
  3. nero0410

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    You generally go above the recommended specs of a game

    This one dont look too bad for the money:

    http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=95739

    Plenty of room for upgrading too when the time comes

    IMHO and some others may agree £1200 for a PC is a sily price when you can get just as good if not better machines for less.

    Hope this helps point you in the right direction:)

    tris
     
  4. clanger

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    Thanks both.

    Quote: "What monitor have you got currently?"

    A 17" Formac for a Mac. Hence, I want to use a TV. And I'll be getting a 42" plasma soon too, so it might get plugged into that occasionally. :)

    Thanks for the links. Mesh seem to have some solid machines (lots of "best buys"), I just need to make sure the graphics card's up to it. Apparently, to get full graphical detail with speed on GTLegends requires something high end.

    Out of interest - I really don't want build my own and risk begin stuck with something I can't make work - what is the cost saving in building your own?

    Need to look at some magazines...
     
  5. wormvortex

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    £1200 if custom built would buy you the ferrari of pcs. If you're paying dell/alienware etc... it will just get u great pc but nothing that £1200 of componets could buy
     
  6. triplea4uk

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    I agree £1200 can get your very good PC if custom built.

    What do you want it for also whats your budget?
     
  7. booyaka

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    Agreed with above - i reckon u can save upto 20/25% building your own pc rather than buying one if you look around for good deals.

    Hence u buy the same pc for £1000 from mesh/dell etc you could probably build it for £750 (give or take a bit)

    The "rig in my sig":D including 19" monitor was £900 all in. That was a from scratch build about 2 months ago. Going to get another gig of ram a.s.a.p but runs BF2 & COD2 with just about everthing turned on (ooerr!:devil: ) fine.
     
  8. semiskimmed

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    theres alot to be said for building your own system, and its really not that hard. the most intimidating thing imo is working with the CPU, putting it in correctly and applying the thermal goop and shoving the cooler on.
    everything else is pretty much just screw in and go.
    you would save money now and when you have a problem and dont need to run off to pc world etc, you could diagnose it yourself. or at least have an idea of what it might be and have a good grasp of how it works.
    its pretty statisfiying building them too
     
  9. clanger

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    Sorry booyaka, I missed your question: I do need keyboard and mouse, but not speakers.

    You guys talking about 'build yer own' are worrying me; I'm starting to get seduced. But I know I don't want to do this. I'm a Mac owner! We expect 'puter's to be appliances ... like a fridge. We don't know, or want to know how how they work - it confuses us. :) But apparently there's an article in something called "Custom PC" about building a gaming machine, FWIW. I'll have a quick look into all this, but I'd rather devote my very limited intellectual resources elsewhere. What happens when you switch on, and it doesn't do anything, or you see random green alpha-numerics scrolling downwards?? At least if buy it ready made I'll know it worked once. :)
     
  10. triplea4uk

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    I think the hardest thing about building own PC is picking the parts that seems to take more time then building it.

    If you do bit of research or ask for help get right parts you shouldn't have any issues its really about getting compatable parts.
     
  11. booyaka

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    clanger - best thing to do is suggest a budget you are working towards and then it would be better.

    Also will it be mainly gaming pc or just for surfing the net etc.

    When you switch it on - it should (fingers crossed) work fine first time assuming you have taken your time building it and all is well.:thumbsup:

    It is a very good feeling to build your own, you should save money, you will be able to pick the parts yourself and you will begin to learn a lot more about pc's than you would just buying one off the shelf!!!!

    Just google "PC Building" and you find loads of articles about building etc.

    Go for it!
     
  12. semiskimmed

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    where abouts are you based clanger? as ive got far too much time on my hands right now :rotfl:
     
  13. clanger

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    Semi...Your mom must have told you not to meet strangers from the web ('The Gimp' said "don't take any notice of her" - at least I think that's what he said- but I shut him back in his box).

    Seriously, thanks, but I don't fancy building my own at the moment.

    I notice that most of the 'games machines' in 'Computer Buyer' seem to have the 7800GT (apart from when you get to ~£2000). Their review of the X1900 reckons it's slower than the 7800GT. And as I don't need all the 'media centre' stuff (photoshop, tuners etc.), wouldn't the 7800GT be the best option? £1200 is about my budget. I'd need to get on the net (with dial-up modem) just to download upgrades, but the machine'd principally be just for games. What about this jobby (?)...

    http://www.meshcomputers.com/Default.aspx?PAGE=PRODUCTVIEWPAGE&USG=PRODUCT&ENT=PRODUCT&KEY=74130

    I wonder if they'd sell it without the speakers (I used headphones) and monitor...
     
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    nice spec there. the only thing that lets it down slightly is the fact it hasnt got 2gb of ram, maybe you could enquire about adding this into it though with mesh?
    :)
     

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