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Help! - tricky projector recommendation anyone?

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by organica, Sep 11, 2004.

  1. organica

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    Hi all -

    I wonder if anyone can help me in my search for a projector.
    What I’m looking for seems a lot rarer than I’d hoped, but here goes.
    My three requirements are:

    1) High brightness - 1,500 lumens or greater
    2) High contrast- 800:1 or greater
    and most importantly from my point of view
    3) No rainbows

    I guess number 3 means either an LCD projector, or some obscure DLP model which used an alternative technology to the colour wheel.

    To give a little bit more detail, it’s going to be used to show DVDs to accompany live music at a variety of locations, which may have high ambient light and possibly other competing lighting effects - hence the min 1,500 lumens - 2,000 or more would be better.

    I also want to use it at home for editing the videos, and I am plagued by rainbows/spectra, even on the H56, which I gather has a 5x , 6-segment colour wheel.

    At present it looks like I may have to go below 800:1 contrast ( :mad: ) -
    unless someone can suggest something!

    Regards -

    Gordon k

    ps - in order to get sympathy by revealing my touching ignorance - what does VB mean?
     
  2. loonatic

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    Hey Gordon,

    What's your budget ? and what size of image do you want to produce ? and from what sort of distance ?

    Cheers, Lee

    BTW VB stands for vertical banding which is common on LCDs in my experience and can be best seen on a panning white area such as the snow covered mountains in the film Vertical Limit.
     
  3. organica

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    Hi Lee - I had originally been looking at sub £1500, with £2000 as my absolute max. But as I haven't been able to find anything that fits my criteria, I'm actually finding myself considering blowing my savings and getting 2 projectors, a low-lumens LCD for the studio, and a high-lumens DLP for the shows. But this seems crazy, and I'm not sure I can really afford it.

    As regards throw distances, I'm really looking for something that can produce a large image from a relatively small distance - but I'm having so much trouble with my three basic needs that I didn't even mention that... :(

    g k
     
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    Your real trouble is budget. You can get a PJ to do all of this, set fire to nearby haystacks, etc, but it will cost. High light will need more than 1500 lumens too, it's a bit logarithmic, 2 x lumens is not 2 x percieved brightness. I've just come from installing a 8k projector + 2k lens to do more or less this job, including 1:1 throw ratio, ie 6ft picture from 6ft away. Re-think your parameters, you are asking way way too much from the seriously budget end of the market. The PJ in question is a Sanyo WF10, it rocks! But then it damn well ought to for that dosh. You could keep your eyes open for a 2nd hand PLV70, that would be about £1500 and would do the biz for you.
     
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    Yeah, that kind of confirms the impression I'd been forming.

    I've tried a 2000 lumens DLP model which is bright enough (when I said "high ambient light" I meant in comparison to a darkened home-cinema setup - most of the venues in question are reasonably dim, but with some coloured light FX). But although at 800-1000 lumens I can get LCD projectors which compete on price (like the Pana AE500 or the Hitachi TX-100) the cost just seems to skyrocket if I want a decent contrast LCD at 2000 lumens. I guess that's where the DLP technology really scores.

    I had already had a look at the PLV70, but had ruled it out on price - I didn't realise they went as cheap as £1500 2nd-hand. Would eBay be the best place to look, or are there specialist places for 2nd-hand projectors?
     
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    Try ebay certainly, I'll ask around for you maybe an e-demo or something hanging about. It's a stonking large venue PJ, would be perfect if you can get one. You might try the PJ hire places, but I'd think they've had a hard life. At least with a PJ checking the hours is easy.
     

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