Help Please, HD DVD player (160GB) sound issues

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  1. cpieries

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    Hi,

    Posted in the wrong bit but can you please take a look at this thread http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5473980&posted=1#post5473980 and advise me how I can connect my exisiting speakers (square connector ends) to my new hard disk sony 160 GB dvd player. I have a HD LCD sony bravia tv but the guy who came to install it said the sub woofer and old surrond system cant be hooked up to new dvd player, I would need amp apparently.

    Appreciate any help!
    Carina
     
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    Is the subwoofer active or passive?
    i.e. has the subwoofer got a phono or a speaker wire connection and do the speakers connect to the subwoofer or did they connect directly to the all-in-one system?
     
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    Active I think! The speakers were connected to the old dvd player and then wires were connected to the subwoofer too. Sorry, excuse my lack of technical knowledge!
     
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    If the speakers were connected to the old DVD player then that means that the power was coming from the old DVD player.
    This means that the Subwoofer will most probably be passive, i.e. not have it's own power/amplification.
    This means that you cannot use the Subwoofer with a standard AV Receiver, as they require it to be active (have it's own power supply and therefore amplification).

    The speakers can be used with a standard AV Receiver if you strip the wires down to normal bare speaker cable, but you have to be very careful about the Receiver/Amplifier you connect it to, as they were only really made to be attached to the all-in-one system you originally had; and therefore could be overpowered and broken.

    Your best bet is to get rid of all of the all-in-one's bits, DVD player, Sub, speakers and then start again with a separates system including AV Receiver/Amplifier + Speakers + Sub.
    Unfortunately the separate pieces of an all-in-one system are not really made to be upgraded, it's either all or nothing.
     
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    Thanks for explaining all that. Urgh this is going to cost me a fortune! Ive seen the amp on Amazon but how do I know if its going to work with my dvd player?
    This is the amp:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-STRDG9...4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1189525989&sr=8-3

    This is the DVD player: https://www.sonystyle.co.uk/SonySty...2BC29B8F455DDFC7D91900EA020000002BC29B72)/.do

    Where would I purchase the speakers and how would I know if it would work with that DVD player and the amp? Im hoping, if the speakers do need replacing that I can get similiar ones, you know the small wall ones. Sorry for the all questions, this is totally beyond me :( and Im getting abit stressed!

    Thanks again for all your help.
    Carina
     
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    Hi again,

    Sorry to keep pestering you, its just your more knowledgeable than the sony people! Ive just checked out speakers and amps here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss...electronics&field-keywords=sony+cinema+system

    Which system would you recommend for the dvd player I have. I dont really understand the difference between 2.1, 5.1 etc. This one looks good though its pricey https://www.sonystyle.co.uk/SonySty...F9B2600EA020000002BC29B72&z_cua_sel_acc=)/.do

    This one is reasonably priced http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-HTDDW7...4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1189527448&sr=1-2

    Its difficult to find one that doesnt include the dvd player. All I want is the speakers and amp, subwoofer. I just have no idea once one to go for!

    Carina
     
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    The Sony STR-DG910 Receiver is certainly a well featured one for the price and a good choice.
    The link for your DVD player doesn't work, but I guess from the thread title that it's a DVD recorder with a 160Gb Hard Drive, so I am thinking it's the RDRHXD870B on the Sony site. Having said that, it doesn't really matter, as any standard DVD player / recorder will work with a standard AV Receiver like you are considering, so there's nothing to worry about there. You'll just be using HDMI and optical or co-axial.

    The speakers seem to be the main problem, I would forget about Sony ones tbh; they (as you can see) cater more for all-in-one systems and don't really specialise is separate speakers so you can make up your own system.
    It really depends on how much you can spend on the speakers, this page is a good start if you are interested in a satellite/sub package.

    These Pioneer ones always look interesting to me too.

    If you wish to for anything a bit bigger, then you have more freedom to mix and match or even just buy some of the speakers now and then add others as funds permit. For example you could buy 2 larger front speakers and a Subwoofer and then add a centre and rears at another time.
     
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    Thanks again for your help rEVILospud. Ive just spoken to my brother and he reckons we should wait for a Blu-Ray recorder with included sound system. He wants a blu-ray player in the future anyway so I dont want to buy speakers that dont work when we get this new blu-ray. Isnt there a system out that will work for both blu-ray and the HDD players so I can get that hooked up the HDD player and then when we get the blu-ray I can disconnect the HDD player to the sound system and connect the blu-ray. God Im confusing myself!

    Are there even recordable blu-rays out yet?
     
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    You'll be waiting a while for an affordable recordable Bluray all-in-one.

    If you're looking for an amp at a reasonable price that's as future proof as it's possible to get right now, the Onkyo 605 is it. It's £400.

    Add onto that at least another £400 for speakers and sub (but really more to do the amp justice).

    How much were you wanting to spend?
     
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    I dont mind waiting. We have the HDD player which is very good apart from the guideplus, which I cant get to work, so that will be enough for us for now. The figures you mentioned £400 for an amp and then another £400 for the speakers makes me think it would be better to wait for an all in one system. By the time that comes out I would have paid off the tv so I should be able to afford the blu-ray!
     
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    I think holding out for a BluRay all-in-one would be a mistake, a separates system is the best way to go and is easily upgradeable.

    The Sony STR-DG910 AV Receiver will accept PCM over HDMI, so you will be able to make the most of HD sound formats on BluRay discs when you decide to get a player.
    It is the cheapest available AV Receiver to feature PCM over HDMI, which is a big plus if your interested in BluRay/HD DVD.
    As you have linked, it is £270 @ Amazon UK.

    If your DVD player/recorder is your only source, then you can go a bit cheaper than the 910 as you don't really need HDMI on the Amp at all; you just need co-axial and optical connections.
    As you seem to like Sony; something like this would do for £130.
    Then add something like the Tannoy FX5.1, here, for £150 and you've got a complete setup for £280.

    If you buy an Amp and speakers now, you will be able to use it with your current DVD player/recorder and then in the future you will be able to add a BluRay and/or HD DVD player to this setup without the need of changing anything else.
     

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