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Help! Pan store got me confused!

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by maxib, Oct 28, 2005.

  1. maxib

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    Okay, i'm new to this so PLEASE have patience with what might be daft questions! Went to Panasonic store today and saw the pv500s - 42 looked great just showing a normal DVD. When i asked to see what a 37' would look like playing something HD, he ran it through a PE50. Now, this isnt marked as HD ready and i couldnt understand a word the guy was saying to me about why HD COULD be seen on this. CAN it display HD stuff and if so will it be as good as on an 'officially' HD ready set like the 500 range? Its a damn sight cheaper if it can! Am i really only paying the extra £1000 for the PC link and card recording gizmos? Thanks for any help you can offer!
     
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    quite simple, pe50 will show HD content but not at the higher resolution which the HDTV Pv500 can. Hence the pe50 is HD Compatible but not HD Ready. If you want to see HD content as its meant to be then it has to be a HD Ready set such as the pv500
     
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    or the PHD8, but also keep in mind he wasn't actually playing anything HD through either screen from what you said, just a 'normal' DVD
     
  4. Piers

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    If he had an HD source, didn't play it in to the PV500 but did into the PE50 he must be trying to sell PE50s! I suspect maxib was shown both HD and standard def DVD into the PV500, but correct me if I have guessed wrong.
     
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    hmmm yes re-reading I think you are correct maestro ;-)
     
  6. maxib

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    wow, quick replies guys! HE didnt show me anything on the 500 - i just caught thunderbirds that was playing on there - although, thinking about it now, the film did have a panasonic logo in the top corner of the screen - could that have been panasonic promo stuff with HD image? He told me that what he was putting in to the PE50 was from a special HD box and it was only wired to THAT specific screen. Why would he want to sell this screen - its not worth as much to him is it? Anyway, did i understand rightly then that even with the HD input into this box, it STILL would not be better quality than on a 500 HD?
     
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    maxib,

    maxib,

    Please excuse my jousting with some far from newbie members! You posted as a newbie and asked for straight advice. tscotsman's reply was good, but perhaps still too technical. I will have another go:

    Both the PV500 and PE50 will display both standard definition and (certain) high definition material. Only the PV500 will display the high definition material in true high definition. Still confused? - give me a ring!
     
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    Thunderbirds with the Panasonic logo will almost certainly have been a high def feed. HD into the PV500 will be much better than HD into the PE50 - it is not just the card reader etc that you are paying for. MEP's comment about the PHD8 may be a red herring - the PHD8 is one of the commercial panels and with a bit of effort / proper advice from plasma specialists they can give an even better picture than the PV500.
     
  9. maxib

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    Thanks Piers. About this resolution stuff, i've been reading over on the lcd threads that screens like the new philips 9830 have a lot more pixels than plasmas like this. Does this mean then that the picture would be better on a lcd than on a plasma? I thought I'd settled on plasma 37' or possibly 42' (pan 500) but looking at some of the reviews of the lcds (eg: philips 9830 What hifi awards winner 2005) i'm starting to get confused! I saw a demo of lg screens showing HD and the lcds did look sharper and brighter - would this be just down to the picture setting or something? any advice?
     
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    sorry, yes it may be a red herring if you after a telly, but I would recommend you consider the panel approach....either way take Piers up on his offer and call him....he knows his stuff
     
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    Hmm... not entirely sure what a panel approach is. In fact I have no idea at all. Is it a different model tv?
     
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    Don't forget that the PE50 (at the moment) doesn't have a HDMI input. It only accepts HD resolutions over component.

    So it's not gonna work with true HD sources (sky/hd-dvd/blu-ray) anyway.

    When Panasonic finally flog all these PE50s (hence all the package deals at the moment), expect the replacement to have HDMI.
     
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    They've all gone to bed! I'm 1st up around here, must be my turn. OK the things Panasonic shops sell you are consumer tellys, you take it home, you plug it in, it finds the TV channels, plug in DVD, VCR, away you go. Simple innit? Unfortunately for you, you have hit on the teccy geeks forum, where many of us like to be different. Remember the days when you 1st bought hi fi? OK you could go to TCR, and come away with something branded with a big name, lots of flashing lights and funny acronyms, all in 1 stack, came with speakers? Or you could go to a specialist shop, listen carefully to some separate components, and a chap (always....) would tell you why one was better, why the speaker cable cost £5 per metre, why you should use these 2 models together and not those 2? You'd leave that shop with some rather dull looking bits with a couple of knobs, and speakers made in Britain. It sounded astonishingly better than the thing with the flashing lights.
    You'll be glad to know the differences are nowhere near so marked, but the separates approach still works well. And is not necessarily more expensive. Likely you already have a digital set top box. So, buying a TV is a bit like buying a music centre with a radio built in when you already have a hi fi FM tuner. Why have 2? Well of course, 2 is good, record 1 and watch the other, but then those nice people at sky have done that for you already maybe? If you are idealogically opposed to sky, there are Freeview set top boxes that do this too. Sound wise, speakers in plasmas are as good as TV speakers ever are, OK for eastenders. For watching your DVD films, or sky movies, or a big sporting event, 5.1 surround sound is nearly a must. So, why buy 2 sets of speakers?
    The TH42PHD8 is panasonic's display only model. It has the same actual plasma glass as the PV500, without the clag, the bulky casing, TV tuner, speakers, processing circuits that you don't need. They are slimmer and noticeably smaller, lacking the speakers, and far more suited to wall mounting, coming out about 6-7 cm slimmer. You'd need some help making sure you had the right bits, but it's well withing the bounds of DIY to use such a thing as your TV, and end up with that 'designer' look, a screen in splendid isolation on your wall, wonderful sound for TV, movies and music, and spend no more money than the pv500 TV and a home cinema in a box from shop@panasonic. The system will be simpler too, sky+, a VCR and a PV500 is 5, yes 5, TV tuners. The lady in your life will just love that.
     
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    Nobody has asked Maxib what HE is likely to use the screen for. So I'll ask :D

    What are you planning to use this TV for? And what equipment do you currently have to plug into it?
     
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    Wasn't there a thread that compares the hd feed through the th42pe50 and the pv500 and the results where the same?
     
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    Maw, much better analogy than the comparison of a Denon mini system and a 2805/2910 combo which you used earlier when comparing the PV-500 and PHD8 systems. Cheers!
     
  17. maxib

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    Thanks for that MAW! This panel thing sounds great so now, of course, i'm really confused about what to be looking for. I've just got a 32 crt at moment and it died so i'm stuffed (kids screaming for Nick Jr etc..). I need a new tv pretty desperately and if i'm going to get one it might as well be good. As far as the wife is concerned (yes I'm a bloke), she'll be happy with anything so long as it looks good. Currently I run a sky+ box, satellite for european tv and video/dvd cheapee combo. A games console might be something for the future (especially with the kids). I want a good screen to enjoy films (so i'd like a surround system too) and to enjoy the HD stuff from Sky. Is this all too much for one of these panels? What sort of price am I looking at for it and would an amateur like me be able to set it up without blowing up the house?
     

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