Help, Nikon D90, D5200 or D7000 for nature shots

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  1. Scooby2000

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    Hi all sorry if this has been asked already.

    My Mrs wants a camera(her hobby not mine), she's a beginner bad has wanted a D90 for ages. Looking into it I find there's better models out there now and not knowing a great deal myself about photography(know a little about ISO etc, nothing about lenses) I don't know what to get.

    Main use will be nature shots then family photos.
    D90 is a great camera but me being me I want the best all the time and after some reading the D7000 is tempting, will she need all the improvements though?.
    So hard buying for someone else.

    Amongst other things the D7000 sounds more rugged and its all weather, she can be a tad clumsy:eek: she has a Finepix S5000 at the mo, given too her a while back and the battery holders broken, very plasticy cheap feeling camera, guessing the D90 is a bit better built.
     
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    Sorry forget the 7000, too expensive:facepalm:
    So D90 v 5200.
     
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    D5200, it has a great sensor.
     
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    Thanks, would you say this was a good comparison?.
    Nikon D5200 vs D90 - Our Analysis

    Problem I have is its all well and good comparing numbers(do it all the time with TV's) but what will make a difference in the real world? Clearly higher res etc is self explanatory but when compared with usability of the cameras functions etc I have no idea how to balance pros and cons. I don't want to get her a camera she finds hard to use, but at the same time I want her to be happy with the results she can get.
     
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    Coming from Tv's I know how important dynamic range is and guessing with photography colour depth is also important, though is the a limit to how good you need the colour depth if what you view the pictures on is limited itself, I can only guess.
     
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    D7000, its £25 more than a D5200.
     
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    Oh ok lol.

    D90 has a focus motor guessing for a beginner that's quite a plus?
    Treading water here chaps, more info/advise would be good.:)

    :confused: 7000 is near £800, D5200 is below £700. Below 700 with lens is ideal if not less, may need to look at second hand.
     
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    Get the D7000, its the best camera out the bunch and out of crop cameras its extremely hard to beat if at all.

    Focus motor helps with older cheaper lenses, newer lenses mostly have built in motor.

    1) D7000
    2) D90
    3) D5200

    5200 has better sensor than D90 BUT it has no manual controls so diving into menus all the time, D90 also has motor and is better built.
     
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    lol 7000 v 90 is what I may be coming to now....7000 is a bit expensive though:( hmmm. The more I look at the 90 the more I think great but OLD, seems a little dated now, though very cheap.
     
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    If you were prepared to buy the 5200 at that price then rather buy the 7000. £25 is nothing in photography, spend the extra couple quid.

    The D90 is still a very good camera, old doesnt mean bad, plus the saving will give you funds towards a lens, a bag, some cards etc. which you have to add to the other camera also.
     
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    Cheapest I can find the 7000 is £719 with kit, not bad but at around 500 the D90 is very tempting. very good point about bag etc, hmm maybe just go with a D90 if she's happy with that, just so tempting to go that bit better lol.

    Got to buy a car and a 2k TV this year so maybe Im getting a bit carried away, guessing a D90 will take very good wildlife pics, she also wants a macro lens.
     
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    Guessing the D90 is still a big step up from her finepix... Seen a D3100 now too:facepalm:.
     
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    It might be worth waiting a while as the D7100 has just been announced which is the D7000 replacement. Once this starts hitting the shops, the new price for the D7000 will fall and second-hand ones will come on to the market as people upgrade.
     
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    The D90 does seem old,but its not a bad camera and is well build,the 5200 & 3200 do have the better senor,as for the D7000 its just about to be replaced with the D7100,so their might be some deals coming up soon.

    Also s/h you might be able to find an D300,still a very nice camera,and very well build.

    :)
     
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    IMO a D300 will be to big, heavy.
     
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    Thanks chaps.
    D90 seems very popular online, good versatile camera.
    Not buying for a couple of weeks so may wait for the D7000 prices to drop, though for her needs Im wondering if the higher ISO and 16mp is needed.
    Better colour and dynamic range has my interest but not sure it'll worry her.
    She's also not got the smallest hands so don't want a camera that's too fiddley.

    Isn't the D300 older? Also do you need the auto focus on the body still?
     
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    I wouldn't be too worried about the lack of direct control buttons - normally not an issue for a beginner. A D5200 twin lens kit can be had for under £700 (this has the same sensor as the new D7100).

    This may be of interest ...

    DxOMark - Compare cameras side by side

    I was quite suprised how well the D5200 does.

    The D90/D7000/D7100 have the auto-focus motor. The D3200/D5100/D5200 don't. All the new 'AF-S' lenses have the motor built in so technically you don't need to replicate the motor in the camera body; it's only older 'motor-less' lenses where it's an issue (and then you would be stuck with manual focus).

    Personally, I wouldn't let the absence of the AF motor stop me from buying a particular model; as there are far more important factors such as ergonomics and image quality.
     
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    PS. Don't discount other brands - your price range is probably the most common for new DSLR buyers and there are loads of other options aside from Nikon (Nikon is the best though!).
     
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    Lack of buttons is not an issue for a beginner but as time goes by it gets frustrating.

    Nikon has loads of excellent lenses that are screw drive and and have AF, so not sure why they would be manual focus. EDIT reread, exactly the 5200 would be stuck with MF, annoying, especially for a beginner.

    Not sure whats wrong with the other cameras ergonomics. DXO lol!

    What you really need to do is decide on your budget then buy accordingly or even better take said lady to shop to choose her own.
     
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    As Nikon has launched 7100 recently prices for 7000 will go downhill now :clap: Focusing motor is a big plus :smashin:
    Usually the first extra lens people buy is 50mm 1.8 and here itself you will save £50 due to advantage of focusing motor.

    I would highly recommend to go at some camera store and handle the shortlisted cameras ...as it would really help in making decision.
     
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    Thanks she wants Nikon, Im glad cuz I rate the make myself from what I've been told over the years and instant experience.
     
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    Yeah she has angsighety problems at the mo so can't hit the town.
    Cheap is good as It'll give me more to spend in other areas, however if 50 quid makes a big difference, even 100 Ill pay it.:)

    She is very much a beginner but needs a good solid camera to take on walks, has no patience with menus etc so interface is important, tho so is the ability to take the pictures she wants for a few years. Hoping if we get a decent one she can just add to it over the years rather than want to buy again in three years time, we won't(I won't have the money).
     
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    Really appreciate the input guys:smashin:
    D7000 would be tempting at around 600, or maybe the D300 as it sounds a good middle ground.
     
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    Yes the 5200 scores better than the d7000.:confused:
     
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    Newer sensors generally score better, DXO doesnt mean anything imo, check the Leica M9 score, thats a 5k camera. You certainly arent going to see the difference between a D5200 and D7000 images but you will notice the difference in every other way. Dont get caught up in DXO numbers.

    Size..... of a D300 and can compare others.

    Compare camera dimensions side by side
     
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    Looks like the D300s is better for sport(higher shutter speed etc) but the D90 better for wildlife photography.

    Nikon D300S vs D90 - Our Analysis

    Man you go found in circles with these don't you lol.
     
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    I wouldnt rely on snapsort for anything besides numbers. Look at pixelpeeper, Flickr and DPReview for real results/reviews.
     
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    Cheers yeah back to D90, D5200 or D7000. Shell want the 7000 I know lol purely as it has more stuff not through knowledge, she knows less than me at the mo on the technical side. If spending on the more expensive I just want to make sure the features are worth it, 700 is a lot of money for me.

    Main thing I need to bare in mind I think are ease if use and good battery life(less hassle the better) but then she wants to be free to take the pictures she wants with the least amount of restrictions. Also want a camera she can learn and develop with over time.......she basically wants the moon and mars on a stick lol.
     
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    That's fantastic, a list of good places for reviews is most welcome, Im often the one giving such advice in the TV forum lol. Not got a clue who is reliable when it comes to camera reviews.:rolleyes:
     
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    The D5200 with an 18-55 is £645
    The D7000 body is 625, a used 18-55 will set you back £60

    Thats a £40 difference, the only reason the D7000 kit looks so much more is because it comes with the far superior 18-105mm as a kit and not the same cheaper 18-55 lens the D5200 comes with.
     
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