Help Needed Bk Xls200,sunfire D8 Or Mj Acoustic Ref 150

mrgibb

Active Member
i've been searching the forums for a week or two now to find the answer but can't deside.As you can see space is a factor so which will give me the best performance i've also looked at the sunfire d-10,i'd be grateful for any help or suggestions or an alternative sub you feel will do the job better :)
 

sdb123

Distinguished Member
What's your budget?

I moved from a BK XLS200 MKII to an SVS SB12+ (very similar dimensions).

:)
 

Druboo

Active Member
That sort of budget is prime SB12+ territory :smashin:

There are other factors to be taken into consideration ... The size of your room, what its going to be used for, music, movies or a bit of both?

Where abouts are you mrgibb?
 

HiFiRuss71

Distinguished Member
I'll help you rule out the D8. It's good fun to watch, but not much below the mid 30Hz comes out of it. It'd be great for a PC gaming sub, but it's just too small.

The XLS-200 is broadly similar (less knobs & more power) to the MJ Ref 200. It therefore makes the Ref 150 look expensive and the Ref 200 more so.

As an ex Ref 200 owner, I'd say look very long and hard at the SB-12/plus. The couple I've met have been great.

Russell
 

mrgibb

Active Member
i'd mainly be using it for movies but do like to play some music.my room is about 20ft by 12ft.
i live in newcastle
 

Druboo

Active Member
Quite a trip to AV-Sales then :rolleyes: Was going to say that you could have done a direct comparison between the SVS and the Sunfire. Russell has since ruled that as a :thumbsdow and I value his judgement.

If you do decide on the SB12 +, AV-Sales do offer a 45? day money back guarantee, so if it's not for you at least you will get your money back.

If you want to go and do some sub auditioning try your local Sevenoaks whom I've read excellent reports of in the past couple of days and have a listen to the Rel T series subs ..... I think we would ALL value your opinion
 

SBanga

Well-known Member
As someone on another thread recommended, try the Monitor Audio RS W12. Looks broadly similar to the SB12 Plus and you can demo it at your dealers. The 45 day money back guarantee from AV Sales looks pretty tempting too. How about buying the SVS, taking it down to your dealers and having a comparison test :devil:
 

TopMeTom

Banned
If you want to go and do some sub auditioning try your local Sevenoaks whom I've read excellent reports of in the past couple of days and have a listen to the Rel T series subs ..... I think we would ALL value your opinion

I would second that, the newcastle 7oaks is meant to be quite good as a 7oaks goes.Looking on their site they do rel and MA. Also I think Lintone audio is near you, they do MA stuff I know, Plus have some good part-ex deals. Always worth supporting a local dealer.
 

mrgibb

Active Member
been to 7 oaks today looked at the monitor audio rsw12 looks like a solid and well made sub but they kept pushing in the direction of the rel r-305 said it goes lower and is a better sub,please help which is best:lease:
 

mrgibb

Active Member
there set up was in a small confined room it was hard to tell what it would be like in a normal sized room.i've not much experience when dealing with subs so the more help the better
 

HiFiRuss71

Distinguished Member
Did you take a few familiar DVDs of the sort that get plenty of discussion on here. How about a CD with a good rangy and fast bass line. It's easier to demo if you can ignore the program material and focus in on what matters. Unfamiliar material won't help, in this respect.

If the REL was a better, deeper sub, could you tell? If you could, is it worth the extra? Generally speaking, if you can't hear the difference, then why spend more?

However, unless it's in a room of very similar size/dimensions to yours, then the demo isn't particularly useful. The room in which the sub will eventually live, is a dominating factor in it's balance, volume capabilities and integration. The physical makeup of the room can also have a large bearing on the performance. Stud walls, for instance, will absorb a lot of bass and could leave a small, or underpowered, sub strugglinginspite of the room not being that big.

If you can't get a home demo, then you may as well buy on the strength of the specs/price/one you like the look of. Dealer experience will help, but unless they know your room at least in passing, then it's no more valid than a lot of the advice on here.

If your local dealers won't offer that, then the AV Sales 45 day money back offer, will.

For all the pitfalls associated with buying online, it is a little surprising, given the much vaunted specialist dealer service, that it's the only easy way of finding out what you really need to know. This is, however, the lesson of finding a dealer you like and sticking with them. They're far more likely to allow a few days with a sub if they know you, of have a swipe of your credit card.

Russell
 

mrgibb

Active Member
thanks for all the input and helping me choose which to go for,i went with the svs sb12+.thank you for the av sales tip got it for £459 + i get a spl meter & cables fantastic offer:thumbsup:
 

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