Help me upgrade my 5.1 - Q7000i or Q3010?

BennyIRE

Novice Member
Hi folks,

I’m hoping yea can give me some advice on upgrading my 5.1 system. I have limited space and am trying to decide between Q 7000i or Q 3010. Is there a big gap between them?

I currently have an entry level Yamaha 5.1 system (YHT-199). The plan is to replace the L, R and centre with x3 7000i speakers (or x2 3010 and a 3090 centre) and keep using the Yamaha ones as the two rear speakers. In time I might upgrade them too, and the bass.

Would the above work well? Any thoughts on 7000i v 3010? I only have a small space but have measured and the 3010s would just about fit. But would only want to go with them if they are significantly better than the 7000i.

Thanks!
 

Gasp3621

Distinguished Member
For sure the 3000i LCR (front three) is better for movies/music - we should have threads of people comparing these two, but that would apply for other brands aswell of similar sized so you aren`t necessarily limited to QA 3000i. Dali Spektor 1 & Spektor Vokal etc. The center channel cabinet is so much larger with bigger drivers you get more weight/depth and overall just bigger more detailed sound. 3010i with quality subwoofer can sound lot better for music listening aswell. Satellites should be only considered if space is very tight or if wife makes all the decisions in house.

But how limited space you really have? Please post picture if you can the front of your room. It might be better just buy two good speakers over three if you have them very closely cramped together. Also that "subwoofer" in the Yamaha package is horrible. Start saving up right away for new sealed sub if you have tiny room (250-500£) and ask here before buying anything..
 

Sloppy Bob

Distinguished Member
I've got the 7000i, they kick above their weight and size, and are probably one of the best compact "Lifestyle" systems you can get without spending an awful lot more.

However, they are small speakers, they're for a small room and there's no doubt larger, decent quality speakers will give more depth, volume and bass.
 

BennyIRE

Novice Member
Thanks for the reply. Space is very tight - it’s a cottage with open play living/dining room and so can’t be configured any other way.

The R and L speakers are either side of TV. If I bought 3010i I would likely mount them on wall either side of TV, although there is just enough room for them to sit on the cabinet itself.

The centre speaker is in the middle cabinet section, amp is in left one and subwoofer is on ground to the right of the cabinet.

I’m not currently using rear speakers, but if I upgrade I will use the Yamaha ones as rears.

I’d be happy to save up for a better quality sound from the subwoofer, but I don’t want lots more power as I need to consider the neighbours!

Thanks again for your help,
 

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ShanePJ

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I have one question about the subwoofer and can see from Yamaha's specs that it seems it could be a passive one as it rates the input power to it from 30w to 100w. Is this correct or are you connecting it via the subwoofer connection on the av receiver and the woofer is plugged directly into the mains?

Now if the front left and right speakers are connected to the subwoofer, it could mean that the woofer has a built in crossover which means that neither of the speakers are ideal and you may also need to focus on the woofer (bass) when upgrading the front three

I would say that the larger Q Acoustics would be better long term for both music and film, however if you are just going to be using the system for TV and film, then the lifestyle Q Acoustics will surprise you

If the woofer turns out to be a passive unit which looking at the spec could indicate that whereas the images contradict it, then you really need to sort that out whilst or before upgrading the speakers
 

ShanePJ

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It's just the specs that are making me think differently as its light and has power input ratings and I cannot remember if it was or not plus the info on the tinterweb isn't there

SubwooferTypeBass reflex non magnetic shielding type
Driver16cm (6-1/2”) cone
Nominal Input Power30 W
Maximum Input Power100 W
Dimensions (W x H x D)262 x 264 x 287 mm; 10-3/8” x 10-3/8” x 11-1/4”
Weight5.2 kg; 11.5 lbs.
 

BennyIRE

Novice Member
For sure the 3000i LCR (front three) is better for movies/music - we should have threads of people comparing these two, but that would apply for other brands aswell of similar sized so you aren`t necessarily limited to QA 3000i. Dali Spektor 1 & Spektor Vokal etc. The center channel cabinet is so much larger with bigger drivers you get more weight/depth and overall just bigger more detailed sound. 3010i with quality subwoofer can sound lot better for music listening aswell. Satellites should be only considered if space is very tight or if wife makes all the decisions in house.

But how limited space you really have? Please post picture if you can the front of your room. It might be better just buy two good speakers over three if you have them very closely cramped together. Also that "subwoofer" in the Yamaha package is horrible. Start saving up right away for new sealed sub if you have tiny room (250-500£) and ask here before buying anything..
I have one question about the subwoofer and can see from Yamaha's specs that it seems it could be a passive one as it rates the input power to it from 30w to 100w. Is this correct or are you connecting it via the subwoofer connection on the av receiver and the woofer is plugged directly into the mains?

Now if the front left and right speakers are connected to the subwoofer, it could mean that the woofer has a built in crossover which means that neither of the speakers are ideal and you may also need to focus on the woofer (bass) when upgrading the front three

I would say that the larger Q Acoustics would be better long term for both music and film, however if you are just going to be using the system for TV and film, then the lifestyle Q Acoustics will surprise you

If the woofer turns out to be a passive unit which looking at the spec could indicate that whereas the images contradict it, then you really need to sort that out whilst or before upgrading the speakers

The woofer has its own power supply and connects to the amp. The other speakers don’t plug into the woofer. If I were to replace it would you recommend going with the Q one that matches the 7000i / 3010 lines, or something else?
 

Sloppy Bob

Distinguished Member
Something else.

Other manufacturers that specialise in Subwoofers such as BK Electronics, SVS etc make far better subs at good prices.
 

BennyIRE

Novice Member
The 5.1 would only be used for movies and TV. I have two stereo linked Sonos One speakers on the other side of the room where the dining table is for music.

So would this work then?

Centre: Q 3090c
Front L and R: Q 3010i
Subwoofer: Yamaha for now but upgrade to BK Electronics or SVS soon
Rear L and R: Yamaha for now but upgrade to Q 7000i when I can afford
 

Gasp3621

Distinguished Member
The 5.1 would only be used for movies and TV. I have two stereo linked Sonos One speakers on the other side of the room where the dining table is for music.

So would this work then?

Centre: Q 3090c
Front L and R: Q 3010i
Subwoofer: Yamaha for now but upgrade to BK Electronics or SVS soon
Rear L and R: Yamaha for now but upgrade to Q 7000i when I can afford

The av-cabinet looks quite low so wall mounting would be more ideal with QA brackets so that the 3010i tweeters would be at seated ear height roughly (measure). Also you should mount the tv little bit higher on the wall. The brackets doesn`t cost much at Amazon. This way you get the center channel top of the av-unit and even then you need to angle the front shooting more upwards. I`m afraid that plant needs to go from the right corner if speaker comes there.

You need new speaker wire too most likely. Here is cheap good one just cut it for each speakers.
Amazon product
For tv if you can wall mount it with the help of friend:

I don`t know what type of budget you would have for the new subwoofer, but here is the cheapest one from BK if you looking something compactand good looking.
 

Gasp3621

Distinguished Member
Thanks for the suggestions! Could I not just put the centre speaker in the cabinet and angle it up?

On top of the unit yes, but you still need to raise the tv higher so wall mounting it is best option. Cheap and easy to do. It doesn`t make sense hiding center channel in your cabinet too low, it`s the most active speaker in your system. But your call.
 

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