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Help me spend £800 on front speakers

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by RushmoreGrad, Jun 24, 2002.

  1. RushmoreGrad

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    Hi,

    I'm looking for a new pair of front speakers to replace my Kef q35s.

    I currently have:

    Kef q35
    Kef Reference Model 100
    Mission m7ds x4 (Rear)
    Rel q200e
    Denon 3802

    Any ideas?

    Or would I be better off spending the £800 on a power amp?

    Thanks!
     
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    Rustmore Gate,
    You need to change all three (at least) and not just the pair. Maybe some of the experts can advise the best option for 800 quid.
     
  3. RushmoreGrad

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    But the model 100 is regarded as being, well, very very good?
     
  4. lmccauley

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    But, the synergy between the front three speakers is more important.

    Either:
    1) Go for whatever kef models match the 100 or;
    2) Change the front 3.

    Cheers,
    Liam
     
  5. Big Jim

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    I would hang on to your cash for a bit until you have enough to pick up something from the outgoing Kef Reference.2 range.

    I seem to remember seeing Ref 1.2's for not too much more that though. They would have the advantage of going very nicely with your centre...

    www.unilet.net had some new ones for £889 recently.

    Amp/processor upgrade not long after that I suspect :D
     
  6. RushmoreGrad

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    I suppose I could get an extra £100 from selling the q35s, thanks for the help!
     
  7. Mark Ward

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    Another recommendation for the Ref 2's here.

    Go for 2.2's if you can find a good deal. 1.2's sound fabulous but the difference the 2.2's bring is outstanding.

    I had my 1.2's for a week when I heard the 2.2's and immediately ebayed the 1.2's.

    Nothing what so ever wrong with the model 100!

    Mark.
     
  8. Big Jim

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    This thread was looking all empty when I started replying!:eek:
     
  9. Jase

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    Hi

    I´d recommend the Kef Reference´s as well, to match the Model 100 centre. You could also move the Q35´s to the rears as Surround B speakers, if you dont fancy selling them and have the space at the back. Use the Missions as Surround A and Surround Backs for movies and use the Q35´s as Surround B for multichannel music etc, not a perfect match but will do better than the missions.

    Cheers
     
  10. mx bob

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    RUSHMORE GATE,
    Are the q35's for sale if so how much and what colour
    are they.

    Thanks
     
  11. RushmoreGrad

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    I phoned kef and spoke to a really super bloke, and he said my best bet would be to buy something in the Monitor RDM two (if I dont have a sub) or the RDM three.

    I didnt even know this range existed, and was very surprised to find the model 100 and 200 being part of this range, I always thought they were just reference series.

    So its either the RDM two or the Reference two. I could get the RDM two for £500 instead of £700 or the Reference two for about £950.

    I will probably put the q35s (they are black) on ebay starting at £100 and see how they do; unless you want to give me an offer?
     
  12. Jase

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    The RDM two´s are standmount speakers, RDM three´s are the floorstanders, both will match your Model 100 centre as they use the same reference drivers.

    RDM is the reference monitor series. Excellent speakers by the way but you´d still need a decent sub with them, especially the RDM two´s.

    Arguably the RDM twos with a decent sub will outperform the Reference 2.2´s on their own.
     
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    I got a q200e a few months ago. I have a smallish room (15x15 foot) and it sits in a corner on top of a 4 inch concrete slab with some weights on the top. I have it fireing into the corner of the room, is this ok, or should it be facing into the room? I really dont have a clue when it comes to placement, I seem to be moving it every week.

    Jase, thanks for your thoughts on the rdm series, I think I will go for the RDM two!
     
  14. Jase

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    Hi

    My Q200 is firing into the room, its on spikes and has six marble slabs on top of it which has tightened the bass really well.

    To find the best spot in your room for the sub, place it at your listening position, put on some music with decent bass, wander round the room and when you find the place where the bass sounds tightest & fastest, plonk the sub there. You may also need to play around with the phase (mode switch). Mode 4 works best in my setup, though may be different for yours.

    cheers
     
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    Jase,

    "Excellent speakers by the way but you´d still need a decent sub with them"

    The q200e is good enough to for the bookshelf RMD two?
     
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    Both the RDM and the Reference 2/2.2's are fine speakers and you should really audition them both with your own equipment if possible, however, if you are going to make a purchase without listening then it may be better to go for the Ref 2/2.2 simply because it's more popular than the RDM and more 'saleable' if you want to upgrade again in the future to something like the Ref 4.

    With regard to the 100 that is also a fine speaker and will match either of the above speakers, I use a modified version of the 100 with a pair of Ref 4's and am more than happy with the result.
     
  17. Jase

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    Its decent enough. I had mine with RDM One´s and now with Kef THX speakers.

    As GaryG has suggested, best to demo the different speakers and choose which ones you prefer. Either way they´re both great speakers.:)
     
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    What does the phase switch actually do?
     
  19. Jase

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    Reverses the phase!:D

    Seriously for a minute, theres some info here about it, down the page, point 4.

    http://www.audioholics.com/Industry/Setup3.htm

    cheers
     
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    Just realised I will have to buy stands, any one have any ideas on a good make or a good place to buy em?
     
  21. Mark Ward

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    For me I can't help feelling you'd be better off with floorstanders.

    Please do the audition... I know from experience about buying £1000+ RRP speakers based on reviews only to realise that I've made a big mistake.

    I know the conventional thinking is that with a decent Sub that stand mount speakers are fine, but in my experience floorstanders give a better overall performance. Decent Stands and smaller speakers take up a similar size footprint in the room, may as well make that space work for you.

    I know I'm leaving myself open to getting shot down in flames here but I also set my speakers to LARGE. I understand the arguments of setting them to small but my system sounds better set to large so there it stays.

    Mark.
     

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