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Discussion in 'Cables & Switches' started by MyBoxLife, Jul 19, 2005.

  1. MyBoxLife

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    I want an image on both, my Phillips TV, which sits alongside the hardware unit, and Epson TW10H projector, which sits roughly 4m away from the hardware unit, so I can watch whatever on the TV, when I’m not using the projector.

    I need to connect the following hardware:
    1/ Pioneer VSX-2014I-S Receiver (Still coming!)
    2/ Sony DVP-NS700V DVD Player
    3/ Thomson TIVO
    4/ Phillips VCR
    5/ Sony PS2
    6/ PC (Still coming!)
    7/ Phillips VL1200 Receiver (Sends the signal to a TV upstairs!)

    Also, I’d want to be able to feed the audio through the speakers, Mordaunt-Short Avante 908’s, 905c, 902’s, from all the hardware, apart from the VCR.

    Thanks.
     
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    :( Nobody want to have a stab at this?

    I expect Component to Component (10m) is going to be the suggested connection between the Receiver and Projector.
     
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    ok how much have you got to spend on this "project"? and how far away from kit is PJ?
    with the kit you have you a couple issues, neither will result in the best PQ for the PJ tho does pio amp upconvert S-video to component? can it also ouput an S-video monitor loop?
    can DVD player output Component and S-video at the same time?
    CAn pio down convert component to S-video for a VCR output....????????

    Current thinking is run component DVi to PJ (component from AMP and DVi for PC /HD use)
    Feed Tivo into a JS RGB>S-video unit RGB pasthrough to TV and S-video to AMP
    then its up to how the pio operates regards component downmix if it is possible to feed DVD and PS2 into AMP and get S-video out for TV and componet out for PJ PC also fed into AMP S-video for TV use and DVi/VGA for PJ utilising the crap but usable TV out S-video (choice of GFX card is critical) as for sound that the easy bit!!!!
     
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    I’ll spend as much as I need to really, but don’t want to be spending top dollar on cable to connect what’s realistically budget gear, hope that makes sense.

    The projector is 4m from the kit, and just short of 2m up the wall, but need 10m of cable, so as to keep it clean and tidy, and missus friendly.

    Here’s the specification for the receiver:

    Key Features
    Automatic Multi-Channel Acoustic Calibration System (MCACC)
    i.Link (Advanced Resolution Digital Audio Interface) and PQLS
    7 x 120 W DIN Continuous Output Power
    Universal video converter
    DTS 96/24, DTS-ES Matrix 6.1, DTS-ES Discrete 6.1, THX Surround EX, Dolby Digital EX, DTS Neo:6 and Dolby Pro Logic Iix
    THX Select Certification
    Transformer Stabiliser

    Power Output
    Stereo (DIN) - 150 W + 150 W 1 kHz, 1% THD, 6 Ohm)
    Surround Front - 120 W + 120 W (1 kHz, 1% THD, 8 Ohm)
    Surround Centre - 120 W (1 kHz, 1% THD, 8 Ohm)
    Rear (Surround) - 120 W + 120 W (1 kHz, 1% THD, 8 Ohm)
    Surround Back - 120 W + 120 W (1 kHz, 1 % THD, 8 Ohm)

    Surround Sound
    Dolby Digital – Yes
    Dolby Digital EX – Yes
    THX Surround EX – Yes
    DTS – Yes
    DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 – Yes
    DTS-ES Matrix 6.1 – Yes
    DTS Neo: 6 – Yes
    DTS 96/24 – Yes
    Dolby Pro Logic – Yes
    Dolby Pro Logic II – Yes
    Dolby Pro Logic IIx – Yes
    THX – Yes, THX Select
    THX Modes – THX Cinema
    Surround Modes –
    Advanced Music
    Advanced Movie
    Expanded Theater
    Virtual Surround Back
    Phones Surround
    Game Mode
    TV Surround Mode
    Sports Mode
    Advanced Concert: 7-Channel Stereo
    Dialogue Enhancement
    Auto Surround

    Construction
    3-D Space Frame – Yes

    Amplifier Design
    Symmetrical Power Train Design – Yes

    Construction
    Isolated Chamber – Yes
    Direct Construction – Yes
    Transformer Stabiliser – Yes

    Amplifier Design
    Accurate Imaging System – Yes
    Discrete Output A.D.E.MOSFET (All Channels) – Yes
    Front L & R Bi-Amplifier Function – Yes

    Multi-Channel Acoustic Calibration System
    Multi-Channel Acoustic Calibration System – Yes (With MIC)
    Microphone – Yes
    Acoustic Calibration EQ – 5-Band (Auto/Manual)
    Auto Surround Set-Up Trim – Yes
    Auto Surround Set-Up Delay – Yes
    Speaker System Detection – Yes

    Audio Features
    Digital Signal Processor - Motorola 180 MIPS 48-bit Processing
    D/A Converter - 192 kHZ / 24-Bit
    A/D Converter - 96 kHz / 24-bit (2-Channel)
    Midnight Listening Mode – Yes
    Source Direct – Yes
    Bass/Treble Tone Controls – Yes
    Loudness – Yes

    Video Features
    Video Converter – Yes

    Conveniences
    On-Screen Display (GUI) – Yes
    FL Dimmer – Yes, 4 Steps
    Sleep Timer - Yes

    Remote Control
    Remote Control Type - LCD - Preset & Learning
    Source Control - DVD, Satellite Tuner, MCD, DTV

    Tuner Features
    RDS (Radio Data System) – Yes
    Random Preset Stations – 30

    Terminals
    i.LINK – 2
    Custom Installer Ready (RS-232C) – Yes
    12 V Trigger Terminal – Yes
    Multi-Channel Input – 5.1 Channel
    IR In/Out – Yes
    Digital Audio Input – 5 (Assign)
    Digital Coaxial Input – 2
    Digital Optical Input – 3 (Includes Front In)
    Digital Audio Output (Optical) – 1
    RCA Audio/Video Inputs – 3 A / 5 AV
    Audio/Video Output – 1A / 1AV+1V
    Pre-Amp Output - Yes, All (7.1 Channels)
    A/V Input on Front – Yes
    SR (System Remote) Terminal – Yes (In/Out)
    SR+ - Yes (For PDP Connection)
    Speaker A/B - Versatile Speaker Configuration
    Large Speaker Terminals – Yes (All)

    Amplifier Specifications
    Input (Sensitivity/Imp.): LINE - 335 mV / 47 kOhm
    Frequency Response: LINE - 5 - 100 000 Hz, +0 dB, - 3 dB
    Signal-to-Noise Ratio: LINE (DIN) - 92/65 dB

    FM Tuner Specifications
    Usable Sensitivity (Mono) - 15.2 dBf, IHF (1.6 µV / 75 Ohm)
    Sensitivity Mono (26 dB S/N, 75 Ohm) - 1.1 µV
    Sensitivity Stereo (46 dB S/N, 75 Ohm) - 50 µV
    Signal-to-Noise Ratio Mono (DIN) - 62 dB
    Signal-to-Noise Ratio Stereo (DIN) - 58 dB
    Stereo Separation (1 kHz) - 40 dB

    Video Specifications
    Input (Sensitivity/Impedance) - 1 V p-p / 75 Ohm
    Frequency Response Component Video (720p Compatible) - 5 Hz - 40 MHz (+ 0dB, -3dB)

    Miscellaneous
    Power Requirements - AC 220 - 230 V 50 / 60 Hz
    Power Consumption – 430 Watt
    Power Consumption in Standby Mode - 0.52 Watt
    Dimensions (W x H x D) - 420 x 173 x 465 mm
    Weight – 15.6 kg

    Here’s the user manual for the DVD player:

    http://www.docs.sony.com/release/DVPNS700P.PDF

    Sorry, I know the latter isn’t exactly what you asked for, but your questions are a little OTT :(.

    So, I should run 2 10m cables, one Component to Component, from the Receiver to the Projector, and one Dvi to Dvi from the PC to the Projector?

    ‘Feed Tivo into a JS RGB>S-video unit RGB pass-through to TV and S-video to AMP’, WHAT :).

    I’ve got the PS2 connected to the Receiver via Optical, but I suspect this is only for the audio?
     
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    yes component for video (fromamp) and DVi for PC
    optical is for sound only

    THis is very complicated to do with budget kit at budget prices a scaler (£700) would make it alot easier...........
    for Tivo i suggest a JS technology RGB to S-video converter MK2 it accepts RGB and outputs RGB and S-video so S-video to AMP and RGB to TV (when i say RGB i mean RGB scart, RGBcvS
     
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    Component Video to Component Video from the Receiver to the Projector, that makes sense.
    DVi to DVi from the PC to the Projector, could I not connect the PC to the Receiver via one of the i.LINK, and thus receive the signal on the Projector via the Component Video?
    £700 spend on Cables :0, that would be half the cost of the kit :).
    RGB Scart to S-Video from the TIVO to the Receiver, and RGB Scart to the TV, that makes sense.
    I’d forgotten about the Sky Box, but that’s not a problem, as that will feed into the TIVO.
    I’m thinking Optical to Optical is fine for connecting the DVD Player to the Receiver?
    What about the PS2, only really need this connected to the Projector, would I be able to do this via the Receiver?

    Thanks so far, it’s all falling into place now.
     
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    OK the £700 was for a black box called a scaler nothing to do with cables..............

    DVi for PC go direct, iLink is for High badwidth audio.......
    everthing you want on PJ (except PC) will need to connect to AMP via componet or S-video. I say connect DVD and PS2 via component

    for Sky connect that to Tivo then Tivo to JS box which then connects to AMP (s-video) and TV RGB optical for DVD sound to AMP same fopr PS" for Tivo and sky use analogue stereo connections

    see if you can get your round all that

    PS i used to charge hundrends of pounds to do this!!!!!!!!!!

    for cables see here www.tvcables.co.uk i will come back to cables shortly
     
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    Happy to buy you a couple of pints if our paths cross :hiya:, thanks again.
     
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    now for cables i have picked what i guess to be suitable lengths check before ordering tho mate
    I reconmend these for Sky>Tivo>JS>TV: http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/PGV7392.html

    (good value fully wired scarts)
    Perhaps give the VCR a treat and get one for it too

    from JS box to AMP:http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/PGV612.html

    FROM PS2 to AMP:http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/XPP04.html

    FRom DVD to AMP:http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/PGV332.html

    AMP to PJ: http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/PGV339.html

    PC to PJ:http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/LINDY10.html (you need to check the cables ends are correct for PC and PJ)

    Digital optical for DVD and PS2 to AMP for audio: http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/TS002.html

    Analogue stereo for Tivo and SKy to AMP:http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/PGA4201.html

    hope this helps, cables are mid level you can spend a whole lot more but dont reconmend you spend much less i havent added a total up, you can do that.

    Just incase you are confused here is the JS box: http://www.js-technology.com/produc...id=34&osCsid=2ecf4ffa441dd034956f18e1980f261e
     
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    You're the man, saved me endless hours of searching and reading. Cheers! :thumbsup:
     
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    Not sure which Forum to put this in, so will just add it to the end of this Thread for now :).

    Does anybody have any final thoughts before the point of no return (Already there, for some of it)?

    What I already have!
    Phillips Widescreen TV
    Epson TW10H Projector
    Sony DVP-NS700V DVD Player
    Thomson TIVO
    Phillips VCR
    Sony PS2 Games Console
    Phillips VL1200 Signal Sender

    What I’m about to spend cash on!
    Pioneer VSX-2014i-S Receiver (£400.00)
    Mordaunt-Short Avante 908, 905c, and 902 (£589.79)

    What I want to spend cash on, some time soon!
    HTPC Unit

    ‘hornydragon’ has already pretty much clarified my preferred connection options.

    Questions!

    For my connection from the PS2 to the Amp, this cable, should I still be using a separate Digital Optical, this cable, for example, to carry the audio to the Amp, am I expected to notice much difference?

    For my connection from the DVD player to the Amp, it was suggested I use Component to Component, this cable, but unfortunately the DVD player doesn’t take Component, am I better using Scart to Component, this cable, or Scart to S-Video, this cable, as suggested for the connection between a J.S. Box and the Amp, for a TIVO signal pass-through?

    What’s the preferred method for achieving a favourable result, for feeding audio from the HTPC to the Amp?

    I was hoping to Bi-Wire the Fronts and Centre, is a, 2 Banana Plug from the Amp, to a 4 Banana Plug to the speaker, type configuration, the way to go?
     
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    :( Nobody want to have a stab at this?

    ... well, that worked last time.
     

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