oneclickwonder
Novice Member
Hello all,
So I just bought a 55' Sony Bravia 900h over the weekend. On paper it was the right TV at the right price point. The online chatter was great, the professional reviews were stellar - I thought I could do no wrong. But nonetheless I went to my local Best Buy to have a look at the Sony and browse the other TV lineup.
On the floor, the Sony 900 looked fantastic. Best Buy is funny in that you can't really demo a TV, they have their retail demo - which bounces around between movie, animation, gaming and advertising clips - it gives you an idea of overall picture quality but you don't really get a chance to see how it performs. Feeling confident, I bought the Sony, excited to get it home and set it up. And that's when the disappointment set in.
We tested regular cable and streaming like Netflix, Prime and Crave - and found the TV had the motion jutter effect (some call it jitter or stutter). Sometimes it was slight enough - others quite prominent. I adjusted the smoothness and clarity for optimum motion smoothness. Even going max smoothness - which didn't increase the soap opera effect thankfully - didn't fix the problem. The real kicker for me was my wife coming by and asking to watch The Haunting of Bly Manor - a series we started on our old TV, a 42' Sharp 1080p - about 5 minutes in she said: 'this looks funny'. She spotted it right away.
Now - I know a little bit about what causes the jutter - the difference between 24fps content and the 60/120hz refresh rate of the panels. I'm upgrading from a different gen of TVs with lower resolution that masked this effect somewhat BUT I honestly can't believe people would enjoy watching content with a distracting jutter. (although apparently some people dont see it). I absolutely hate it, takes me right out of the moment.
Just looking from some advice from the community on how to get to my end goal - an enjoyable TV experience, preferably with a 4k TV to take advantage of that advanced definition and colour range.
1.) Can my Sony 900h be adjusted further to end jutter or is this just a feature of this particular brand/model?
2.) Is it possible internet speed is contributing to jutter? We have a high-speed connection that's wirelessly going to the TV. Note - the jutter was still visible on content coming from the cable box which is hardwired in via coaxial coming to the home and HDMI to the TV.
3.) 55 inch is a step up from the 42 we were at on our old Sharp 1080p TV. Now the size will no doubt exaggerate the jutter but we sit pretty far back from the TV - like 11 feet or so. Even sitting 6ft from the 1080p I never noticed jutter. Would downsizing to a 49' or smaller be wise?
4.) I'm also looking at a 55' Samsung q70. I have it on order with Best Buy because they were offering a great deal on it and only a few were left. I bought the Sony with the intention of keeping, but had the Samsung as a backup. Does anyone know if Samsungs are less prone to jutter?
5.) Am I essentially doomed to having to own 1080p panels to totally avoid jutter? Hopefully not!
Thanks for any and all advice!
So I just bought a 55' Sony Bravia 900h over the weekend. On paper it was the right TV at the right price point. The online chatter was great, the professional reviews were stellar - I thought I could do no wrong. But nonetheless I went to my local Best Buy to have a look at the Sony and browse the other TV lineup.
On the floor, the Sony 900 looked fantastic. Best Buy is funny in that you can't really demo a TV, they have their retail demo - which bounces around between movie, animation, gaming and advertising clips - it gives you an idea of overall picture quality but you don't really get a chance to see how it performs. Feeling confident, I bought the Sony, excited to get it home and set it up. And that's when the disappointment set in.
We tested regular cable and streaming like Netflix, Prime and Crave - and found the TV had the motion jutter effect (some call it jitter or stutter). Sometimes it was slight enough - others quite prominent. I adjusted the smoothness and clarity for optimum motion smoothness. Even going max smoothness - which didn't increase the soap opera effect thankfully - didn't fix the problem. The real kicker for me was my wife coming by and asking to watch The Haunting of Bly Manor - a series we started on our old TV, a 42' Sharp 1080p - about 5 minutes in she said: 'this looks funny'. She spotted it right away.
Now - I know a little bit about what causes the jutter - the difference between 24fps content and the 60/120hz refresh rate of the panels. I'm upgrading from a different gen of TVs with lower resolution that masked this effect somewhat BUT I honestly can't believe people would enjoy watching content with a distracting jutter. (although apparently some people dont see it). I absolutely hate it, takes me right out of the moment.
Just looking from some advice from the community on how to get to my end goal - an enjoyable TV experience, preferably with a 4k TV to take advantage of that advanced definition and colour range.
1.) Can my Sony 900h be adjusted further to end jutter or is this just a feature of this particular brand/model?
2.) Is it possible internet speed is contributing to jutter? We have a high-speed connection that's wirelessly going to the TV. Note - the jutter was still visible on content coming from the cable box which is hardwired in via coaxial coming to the home and HDMI to the TV.
3.) 55 inch is a step up from the 42 we were at on our old Sharp 1080p TV. Now the size will no doubt exaggerate the jutter but we sit pretty far back from the TV - like 11 feet or so. Even sitting 6ft from the 1080p I never noticed jutter. Would downsizing to a 49' or smaller be wise?
4.) I'm also looking at a 55' Samsung q70. I have it on order with Best Buy because they were offering a great deal on it and only a few were left. I bought the Sony with the intention of keeping, but had the Samsung as a backup. Does anyone know if Samsungs are less prone to jutter?
5.) Am I essentially doomed to having to own 1080p panels to totally avoid jutter? Hopefully not!
Thanks for any and all advice!