jawilson59
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Folks, some advice needed.
Current System
Sony Bravia KDL-40W2000
Sky+HD box (new ish one with HDMI out - have the old component one knocking around somewhere too)
Denon 1930 DVD Multiregion upscaler
PS3 Slim - 160GB
Xbox 360 (original type, with either HD out via component or VGA cable of which I have both)
Mission 773E front speakers
Mission 77C1 centre speaker
Mission 77DS surround speakers
Paradigm PS-1000 subwoofer
Gale audio speaker cable
QED HDMI 1.3A performance cables
BT Home Hub 3 Type N Wireless
Apple friendly home environment!!
Living room about 5m wide by 8m long, carpeted, with solid walls as opposed to stud walls, suspended wooden floor and standard wooden ceiling construction.
New AV Receiver shortlist
Onkyo TX-NR609 or above
Pioneer VSX-1021 or 2021
Denon AVR1912 or above
Yamaha VX671 or above
A N Other
This is my needs ( I think!!, and current process of elimination)
1. Will have two Zones, living room and dining room behind it (will drill hole in base of wall to feed cables through to dining area), which will have a set of Tannoy Mercury 2.5 speakers to be driven by the Zone 2 outputs, therefore Zone 2 needs to be powered.
2. Xbox 360 & Sky+HD will need 2 digital optical inputs for outputting DD5.1.
3. Denon 1930, Sky HD & PS3 all going in via HDMI.
4. Xbox going in via Component (i could go in via vga but this as far as i know would limit me to the onkyo).
5. living room setup is 5.1 with zone 2 as described in point 1 above.
6. Single HDMI cable going to TV.
7. Would like to have a receiver with HDMI input on front panel (for sporadic laptop connection) and have 3 optical inputs as 2 will be taken up as described in point 2. Don't want to spend hundreds of pounds and then have no further capacity, even if at this stage I don't need it.
8. Would like Airplay to be built in as if i get Apple TV for the Onkyo, it can't be output to Zone 2 as far as I know. The pioneers can output Airplay to zone 2. Have not checked if Denon or Yamaha can output Airplay to Zone 2.
9. My 773E front speakers support biamping, but in order to do it and have zone 2 i would need a 9.1 receiver.....dont think my budget can stretch to that ( ~ £700)
10. Aesthetically pleasing, which for me and my girlfriend sort of rules out the yamaha and denons as their fronts are very cluttered.
11. This leads me to the Pioneers....
12. Future system upgrades may include Philips 58PFL9955 and a dedicated philips blu-ray for the subtitle shift options. PS3 will then just be used for media streaming, films, etc.
13. We are big movie lovers, so system primarily for this, although music to zone 2 would be used also, so some amount of audio prowess is needed.
14. Built in WIFI would be nice, but more than likely will use a Netgear WNCE2001, cheaper than manufacturer specific adaptors, possibly more reliable!!
15. Regarding upscaling, I will probably let the Denon 1930 continue upscaling SD DVD's due to the chip in it. I will probably have to experiment with SD sky outputs to see whether the Sky box, Sony Bravia or the AV Receiver do the best job of upscaling.
Concerns
Living in Northern Ireland, near Belfast, don't have too much choice for home demoing, therefore wanted to know if anyone had grave concerns over use of mission speakers with the pioneers or any of the others? The speakers are 8 ohms, so should be no problem for any of the above receivers.
Should there be any other receivers I should be considering other than those listed above?
Is the Pioneer VSX-2021 worth the extra spend over the 1021? Is the SD upscaling chip better?
If the Sky HD HDMI out and optical out are assigned to one of the receivers inputs, when the receiver is off and I want to watch sky (late at night - girlfriend in bed), will the sky stereo signal be transmitted to the TV by the hdmi standby pass through?
Current System
Sony Bravia KDL-40W2000
Sky+HD box (new ish one with HDMI out - have the old component one knocking around somewhere too)
Denon 1930 DVD Multiregion upscaler
PS3 Slim - 160GB
Xbox 360 (original type, with either HD out via component or VGA cable of which I have both)
Mission 773E front speakers
Mission 77C1 centre speaker
Mission 77DS surround speakers
Paradigm PS-1000 subwoofer
Gale audio speaker cable
QED HDMI 1.3A performance cables
BT Home Hub 3 Type N Wireless
Apple friendly home environment!!
Living room about 5m wide by 8m long, carpeted, with solid walls as opposed to stud walls, suspended wooden floor and standard wooden ceiling construction.
New AV Receiver shortlist
Onkyo TX-NR609 or above
Pioneer VSX-1021 or 2021
Denon AVR1912 or above
Yamaha VX671 or above
A N Other
This is my needs ( I think!!, and current process of elimination)
1. Will have two Zones, living room and dining room behind it (will drill hole in base of wall to feed cables through to dining area), which will have a set of Tannoy Mercury 2.5 speakers to be driven by the Zone 2 outputs, therefore Zone 2 needs to be powered.
2. Xbox 360 & Sky+HD will need 2 digital optical inputs for outputting DD5.1.
3. Denon 1930, Sky HD & PS3 all going in via HDMI.
4. Xbox going in via Component (i could go in via vga but this as far as i know would limit me to the onkyo).
5. living room setup is 5.1 with zone 2 as described in point 1 above.
6. Single HDMI cable going to TV.
7. Would like to have a receiver with HDMI input on front panel (for sporadic laptop connection) and have 3 optical inputs as 2 will be taken up as described in point 2. Don't want to spend hundreds of pounds and then have no further capacity, even if at this stage I don't need it.
8. Would like Airplay to be built in as if i get Apple TV for the Onkyo, it can't be output to Zone 2 as far as I know. The pioneers can output Airplay to zone 2. Have not checked if Denon or Yamaha can output Airplay to Zone 2.
9. My 773E front speakers support biamping, but in order to do it and have zone 2 i would need a 9.1 receiver.....dont think my budget can stretch to that ( ~ £700)
10. Aesthetically pleasing, which for me and my girlfriend sort of rules out the yamaha and denons as their fronts are very cluttered.
11. This leads me to the Pioneers....
12. Future system upgrades may include Philips 58PFL9955 and a dedicated philips blu-ray for the subtitle shift options. PS3 will then just be used for media streaming, films, etc.
13. We are big movie lovers, so system primarily for this, although music to zone 2 would be used also, so some amount of audio prowess is needed.
14. Built in WIFI would be nice, but more than likely will use a Netgear WNCE2001, cheaper than manufacturer specific adaptors, possibly more reliable!!
15. Regarding upscaling, I will probably let the Denon 1930 continue upscaling SD DVD's due to the chip in it. I will probably have to experiment with SD sky outputs to see whether the Sky box, Sony Bravia or the AV Receiver do the best job of upscaling.
Concerns
Living in Northern Ireland, near Belfast, don't have too much choice for home demoing, therefore wanted to know if anyone had grave concerns over use of mission speakers with the pioneers or any of the others? The speakers are 8 ohms, so should be no problem for any of the above receivers.
Should there be any other receivers I should be considering other than those listed above?
Is the Pioneer VSX-2021 worth the extra spend over the 1021? Is the SD upscaling chip better?
If the Sky HD HDMI out and optical out are assigned to one of the receivers inputs, when the receiver is off and I want to watch sky (late at night - girlfriend in bed), will the sky stereo signal be transmitted to the TV by the hdmi standby pass through?