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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by la gran siete, Apr 20, 2005.

  1. la gran siete

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    Would you allow yourself to be spoken to like that by some poncey prima donna. Th French geezer is alright ,even the tantrums I can just about poke up with , but that Gary "yes chef , no chef"( three bags full chef) Rjhodes is just a T*** pot isnt he?Whats he trying to do out macho the Vinnie Jones of the culinary world Gordon "thug" Ramsey. I mean the bloke doesnt even have the courtesy to shake someones hand when its offered. Has he no manners or civility? I thought his style of management had gone out with the ark- bullying, intimidation,humiliating.I know its a game show but I reckon the man needs a good slap.
    As for the food . Whats that all about?I went to one of those poncy restaurants( Bailifs court) once and after I parked my rusty Corolla with its usual compliment of fauna and flora on board( ie arachnoids and gastropod molluscs plus sundry remnants of vegetation) next to the BMW I ventured in and grabbed the offered menu from the rather obsequious waiter and ordered set menu 1 @£25.My wife ordered set menu 2 @ £45 and after picking myself off the floor we sat at the table waiting for this gastronomic experience to arrive. Now the starter I had no problem with it was a sort of terrine and it was quite tasty. The main course consisted of one of those turrets sitting oin the middle of a large plate with a sauce dribbled round it . I said to the waiter " I didnt want the kiddies menu" for I swear 70% of what was in front of me was plate.|Now Im happen to like my grub but that was a joke and an expensive one at that. It looked pretty and probably would've looked ok at the Tate but not on my plate thank you very much. I want honest unpretentious grub. Dont mind if its foreign - Indian Thai, Italian, Spanish , Turkish even Argentine but ponced up food is a ripoff in my view.My bill came to £100 for two Arrrgh!
     
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    So you knew it was a 'Poncy Restuarant', you had a look at the menu and prices before you ordered. Yet you were dissapointed with both the size and price? :confused:
     
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    Which brings us nicely around to the best button on the remote,the off button!Shame we have to pay a licence fee to use it!
     
  4. la gran siete

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    :confused: :confused: :confused:

    I hadc a look at the menu as one normally does saw the prices yes,andc when I picked myself off the grouind ordered number 1 hoiping for an unparalleled gastronomic experience. It wasnt, it was a rip off! My wife , though, enjoyed it so there we are.Whats your point?
     
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    The actual programme is entertaing up to a point ,I catch snippets of it here and there.
    Tv licence here to stay - good!
     
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    My point is, it lists in the menu, what you will get. Most restuarants that charge over £25 for a set menu, will have small dishes. You pay for what they deem a well prepared and tasty meal, not one that will fill you up.

    Are you saying that you thought your plate would be pilled high with an 'As much as you can eat' offer to boot? If so, avoid 'Poncy restuarants'.
     
  7. Ian J

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    The point looks like being "horses for courses" as I don't see the point in going into that sort of restaurant knowing what it will be like and moaning about it afterwards when it turns out to be exactly what you knew it would be.
     
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    It's still a rip off. ;) We went to a firms dinner (luckily the boss paid all, as we did really well that year) and it was the old NC. Small portions, not very tasty, overpriced, and nothing to right home about. Same thing we went to a major 'do' in London after the wife won an award for her business management. The food was sparce, and again nothing too clever. Maybe my palate isn't refined enough to taste the 'subtleties'. ;)

    Or maybe it is just overpriced tot.
     
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    I never argued that it wasn't a rip off. I was just shocked that LG7 went to such an establishment, and then acts like it was a suprise that the food was minimal and expensive.
     
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    Seems like you picked the cheaper set menu and got what you paid for. ;)
     
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    NC as you call it is very seventies :D

    Even in haute cuisine there is bad as well as good and most functions aren't particularly good with the food.

    If done properly the tastes should be subtle and not overpowering. You should be paying for the chef's skill in preparing something complex and time consuming using perhaps some ingredients that aren't available from the local supermarket.
     
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    Fair enough! :)

    I can get that in one of the good Chinese resturants over in the pool'. Without paying a 'kings ransom' I might add. ;)
     
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    Yuet Ben ,mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
     
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    He is the head chef. You do what he says because he knows what to do but he's telling someone else how to do it and wants exactly the same, if not better, than he could do it himself.

    A friend of ours is a chef and out of work, he is quiet as a mouse, but in a kitchen he is very forceful.

    The people in Hells Kitchen have one chance to get it right and if they don't, it's the head chef who gets it in the neck.

    Richie.
     
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    I haven't watched this, but I'd agree that Gary Rhodes does indeed need a slap.
     
  16. Ian J

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    I didn't watch the program as it seemed from the trailers that it would be contrived and dumbed down and in truth I think that you'll find that if he was rude in the kitchen it was because he was told to be so by the producers as it makes for better ratings.
     
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    When I go to a restaurant that charges an arm and a leg I expect to experience culinary delights but also expect to come out feeling well fed as well . Otherwise whats the point?I recently went to an Italian and paid the same amount. We shared a seafood platter( fruit de mer) an exquisite chocolate moose , bottle of Fussy Pussy(Pouille Fume) a delicious glass of sweet red wine and two brandies.Expensive but I came out feeling very satisfied( food was not piled high). It was thoroughly unpretentious. Having experienecd Bailiffs I can categorically claim that it is a pretentious restaurant .Until one actually goes into such an establishment one cannot make judgements but pretentious it is.When people realise that food preparation is not an art form but a craft prices may well come down
    and chefs may lose some of that celebrity status and rejoin the human race.
     
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    That could well be the case- all in the cause of entertainment.
     
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    There are ways of trelling peole what to do and I woluld suggest that his methods are unacceptable.
     
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    Ye Gods LGS,was that a whole choccie moose each??No wonder you pour scorn on your average restaurant's portion.I doubt I could manage even half a moose. :D :D
     
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    Maybe they should stick a sign outside those eateries saying "this establishment only serves artistic creations on a plate for which you will pay an extortionate price. We do not do good value for money food. For that go elsewhere"
     
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    It was luvly jubly! :clap:
     
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    Antlers and all
     
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    That's what the menu is for.
     
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    apart from the prices the menus are not that explanatory :rolleyes: Invariably written in French as well
    My menu didnt say fancy little turret stuck in middle of plate made from polenta base and topped with spinach and monkfish .Incredibly bland but if you can find the dribbled sauce that may add some flavour.
    I asked for some tartare sauce and the waiter gave me a withering look.

    Contrast thatg with turkish I had the other day .A "metze" ;that is several small dishes of various delights including humous taboulah , tzazicki ,olives pitta bread etc etc washed down with some excellent house wine . Total for three £50 ( including premeal cocktail). Excellent and veritably unpretentious.We were even entertained by a belly dancer although I'm not sure what one is supposed to do when they approach you and grin at you in a psuedo lascivioius fashion. Smile back I guess or ignore.
     
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    Before the recent England game in Newcastle we ate in a Chinese restaurant which does "all you can eat" for £4.99 during the afternoon in midweek. nearly 70 different dishes and all superb :thumbsup:
     
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    All I can suggest then, is do more research before eating out. You chose where you are going to eat, and it is up to you to make sure you will get the sort of meal you'll be happy with. I just think it's a bit off to slate a restuarant for doing what they do. Different restuarants offer different food in different amounts. I am sure no waiter will be offended if you ask questions about a meal before ordering. In fact it is part of their job.
     
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    They volunteered to go on the Show!! + signed a contract. :lesson:

    Simple answer = press the Ch +/- button on the remote. :D
     
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    That sounds expensive to me as you can buy most of what you listed in cartons at £1 each from Sainsbury and hummus and tsazicki (along with taramasalata) are just different mixtures whizzed up in a blender anyway so hardly any great skill needed in preparing them.
     
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    There is absolutely nothing wrong with slating a restaurant if you think the food is bland ,overpriced and the portions absurdly small.I do think , though , that one should let the management know ones feelings about the establishment
     

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