Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by raigraphixs, Jul 5, 2002.
Anyone seen Hellraiser 5 ?.
Was 4 the one set in space?
Didn't know there was a 5.
Four was the one set in space.
As for five (Hellraiser Inferno) I've not seen it yet, it's supposed to be fairly rubbish with Pinhead playing a very minor role.
Just found this from a review:
"Hellraiser 5: Inferno will truly annoy fans of this series, and it will bore anyone else to tears. Every frame of this schizophrenic and confused movie is as familiar as it is dull. Pinhead deserves a hell of a lot better than a cameo role in a third-rent cable movie."
Oh... there is a 5th Hellraiser, it's called 'Hellraiser: Inferno' and it's actually a very watchable film.
Original Hellraiser fans may feel it a little out-of-stride with the first four in the series and that's intentional, the director Scott Derrickson saw that the franchise had hit an all time 'Alan Smithee' worthy low with Bloodline and didn't want to see it die.
So, he set about making and writing Inferno with a view to having it more real wordly, which it is. Pinhead fans may well ne unhappy as he appears for little more than a couple of minutes (which makes the DVD cover of him seem a little crass).
The story is pretty good though, it has some great dark humour and the production levels are the best of the series without any doubt. The DVD transfer is probably 8/10 picture wise and about 7/10 sound wise as little is called for in the audio department.
Seriously, it's not a bad film at all.
The good news is that it's not over yet and Hellraiser VI: Hellseeker is on it's way anytime now...
P.S. Kevin Yagher's been involved in some absolute storming films, it's just a shame someone saw fit to let him attempt the direction of Bloodline. That he eventually had a hissy fit and insisted it went out under the Alan Smithee makes the whole affair even more embarrassing than if he'd just come clean about making a comparative stinker.
Hellraiser 4 was utter ****e But dont blame Kevin yagher - As the film was screwed up by the studios not him - not much of the released film was directed by him - his version was very different with some great looking New cenebites non of it made it in the released version - Pinhead wasnt introduced until the space scenes etc etc
A two pack is out on R1 contains Hellraiser 4 (crap) and Hellraiser 5 - which i did enjoy a good story and some very creepy cenebites/demons - They should of released it on its own and not as a part of hellraiser as its nothing to do with the series.
I thought the origional Hellraiser was a very good film.
Sometimes it's a shame when they decide to make multiple sequels......(Friday the 13th, Halloween etc..)
Hellraiser stands the test of time 2day....
First pinhead movie was great. After that, the rest were crap
I rented Hellraiser 5 last night. No where near as bad as I was expecting and a 1000 times better then numbers and 3. It's actually a very watchable film. Although putting Pinhead on the cover is a bit cheeky as he's only in it for about 3 minutes.
POSSIBLE PLOT SPOILER
When did Pinhead become the Engineer in the first film it was that rubbish monster that chases Kirsty down the hall (the one you can see two men pushing it along) and it was also the dragon type monster that took the box away at the end. How is Pinhead supposed to be the engineer and look after the box if he can only be released from it.
LeighM: Hellraiser Inferno moves away from the idea that Pinhead is a single, 'real' entity and implies that he can take many forms and is not governed or contstrained by the Lament Configuration and is rather called by someone opening it as opposed to being released.
Although both Hellraiser and Hellbound do allude to The Engineer creating Pinhead, I guess the idea is that he did so in the same way that God created Man, in other words, God could take the form of a man.
With any franchise that takes a tangent 5 films in (and especially with the Hellraiser novels/films creating a far more complex world than most horror films), there are going to be some 'Hmmm' continuity moments I guess.
To take some of the (slightly more anal) theories to their conclusion, some people have suggested that The Engineer is a God-like figure who exists for everyone but may appear differently to each individual and that solving the puzzle is a gateway to him much as religious/spiritutal people see prayer and church as the way to finding counsel with their God.
Interestingly, in Inferno, Pinhead/The Engineer starts to take on a dislike of humans that are involved in behaviour that most standard religions would also frown on heavily.
If you like Jacob's Ladder (who in their right mind doesn't?), Inferno is pretty much a less in-depth, more supernatural version. It's obviously not JL standard but it is better than Hellraiser III and IV.
BTW, Hellraiser: Hellseeker (Part VI) is out on R1 DVD in the states 15 October. Although STV it's presented in 1.85:1 anamorphic widescreen. The film re-unites Kirsty and Pinhead.
Just found this on Play.Com about Hellraiser 6.
"This sixth installment of the popular HELLRAISER series once again stars Doug Bradley as Pinhead, leader of the Cenobites. HELLSEEKER begins as Pinhead and his fellow Cenobites are called to Earth and intend to bring hell along with them. Though Pinhead and his minions are willing to torture and kill those who would stop them, one of Pinhead's old enemies, Kristy Cotton (Laurence), has returned to make sure he doesn't succeed in bringing hell to Earth."
Looks like the ST V/DVD date has been moved back from 15 October to 22 October. Presumably to give them more time to do actually carry out some publicity for it!
Here's a most amusing piece of news, from Gary Tunnicliffe the effects artist on Hellseeker... apparantly Dimension films is commissioning TWO further films in the series, to be made back to back.
Ack well, guess this another one that was never made
We are now shipping Hellraiser 7: Deader....
hellraiser 1 was excellent, 2 not that bad but after that it became helldowner all the way.
i really like hellraiser: inferno. its got some very visceral moments, and the story is very interesting and creepy. as with a lot of horror movies, the end really sucks balls, but the movie itself is good. they could have easily got away with making it a standalone movie as pinhead is not really that important to the story until the crap ending, though i expect they needed a well known license to get the movie made in the first place.
hellraiser: hellseeker (part 6) however is bloody awful, they throw Kirsty back into the mix about as subtley as a sledgehammer to the face and the acting from just about everyone is appalling. the storyline is also very dull and not in the slightest bit interesting. only good thing about this one is the twist ending..
will be buying parts 7 and 8 just as soon as they get to below £7
still after part 4 though
And Hellraiser 8 is out in September I believe. Pre-orders available from PlayUSA at the moment but expect all usual region 1 sellers to have this soon. I've got number 7 on pre-order from DVDSoon for about £7.
6 - not too bad a film and a refreshing change from your atypical movie but the ending is obvious ti does moves away from your typical hellraiser film though. I mean how far can you take these characters, open the box monsters come out, close the box they go away . Also its only a very minor cameo for the kirsty character either.
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