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Heathrow show - new pioneers

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by oaklandraiders, Sep 24, 2004.

  1. oaklandraiders

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    Yo

    Had a quick look at the hifi show today, before a longer look on sunday.
    Pioneer have the 435 and 535 and big 61incher.
    435 running on RGB
    535 running on HDMI

    Both very nice, U 571 was my demo, slightly better than 434, the banding has disappeared.
    So subject to DLP tv's this would be my new tv.

    JOhn
     
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    Its the off air picture that many find unacceptable, it would be nice to be able to check the PQ with a standard sky box RGB feed.....
     
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    I'll be going to the show tomorrow - I'll be giving them a thorough checking over :devil:
     
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    I watched the 505xde there on Saturday showing "Fast & Furious" via hdmi. Going by my memory of the 504, I would say the image was slightly clearer than the 504. I could not see any grain with hdmi (what hifi said it was grainy)

    You could still see reflections on the screen, but not multiple reflections that you get on normal plasmas. (my cheap Tosh 46wh08 rp has no relections at all)

    I think there is still a hint of green tinge, but perhaps not as much as the 504's. though dealers claim this can be corrected (if it is so easy then why don't they do it!)

    I still have a major gripe which is that the image still does not flow! for example, when someone swings their fist, you can see the arm starting to move, then the arm stopping, but not the movement in-between, a bit like watching people move in strobe lighting. Panasonic & Fujitsu 50" or any projector i've seen do not have this problem for me, so if i can hook up my Pioneer 868 via hdmi to the new Panasonic series 7, then that could well be my choice.
     
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    I was there yesterday too, the 505 was playing Star Wars through HDMI and it looked simply stunning!

    The 435 was playing the Fast and The Furious (they must have swopped the discs around) and that looked a bit grainy but the guy said the image was through RGB scart - still I expected better.

    Did you see Pioneer's 61" monster :eek:
     
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    Do you (or anyone else) know if this problem is a general problem independent of the input source, or if it's input dependent?
    (HDMI vs SCART vs RGB vs composit)
     
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    Hi Sturdy,

    I've only seen 505 via hdmi. I suspect the problem is with the 50hz to 75hz conversion. I believe the new tvs have a 100Hz mode that I suspect might resolve this issue, on the other hand it might be their PureCinema digital processing. The existing 50MXE might be ok (i've not seen it) but it does not support hdmi (video encryption not supported) so no use to me.
     
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    Hi Tejstar,

    The 61" looked good, but as it is not in my price range, I did not spend o lot of time on it
     
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    The question is, who would have a room big enough for that display? :laugh:
     
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    Me.... :D But no money unless you lot want to chip in with a few quid..... :lease:

    Watching these things via HDMI from DVD or better sources are bound to look decent, what you really want to see is how they perfom with the stuff you normally watch most days (i.e."live" broadcasts....). I can make even a cheap old NEC MP4 look stunning if I feed it HDTV but a sky box feed looks horrible....Unfortunately thats what most of us have to watch daily.......
     
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    I wonder which HDMI cable they were using from the DVD, I found the picture grainy when using the pioneer HDMI cable on a 434, when the cable was substituted with a Gefen and Monster brand the problem was eliminated.
     
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    I missed the Pioneer stand !!! Gutted...
    only got there 10 mins before the shutdown on Sunday...! d'oh.

    I've pre-ordered the PDP-435XDE already ...
    any more views on this plasma?
     
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    xstyle, u did not miss much, there was not much to see. still it was the only reason why I went. the show is really going down hill, although I thought the 2 chaps playing live in the cafe were good
     
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    hahahaha :laugh:
     

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