I had a meeting in the West End of London today so I decided to pop into Selfridges to have a look at some of the plasma's. Now before someone says it, I know that the set up of plasma screens in a department store will always have room for considerable improvement, but I felt that each screen would be on level if not poor playing ground. I saw the Pioneer 434 HDE connected to its HDMI player via HDMI and I have to say that altough the picture was good, it certainly didn't live up to my expectations. The image did have good depth and detail and the picture also appeared to be noise free but it still lacked real impact. I was also quite alarmed at the black levels which appeared to be grey!! Infact more grey than any of the so called popular screens (Hitachi, Panny, Sony, Philips). Im guessing that its because of the black gloss surround as the contrast figures for the 434 are quite good. Im sure that a better picture could be achieved with some tweaking but surely the fact that the connection is digital should remove a lot of the normal tweaking options, no? The bottom line is that Im not convinced that HDMI is that much better than a good progressive feed from a decent player on a plasma screen. I suspect that HDMI it may well come into its own on a larger image from a projector, but will have to wait and see. BTW, I saw the Fujitsu 42VHA30 - This had a great picture on analogue tv, so I can only imagine how good it would be with DVD!!