HDMI Matrix and Home AV receiver

sacvegas

Novice Member
HI all,

Has anyone heard of, or seen a setup with a HDMI Matrix and AV Receiver?

I have a Denon AVR-S750H Receiver. 7.0 Speaker Setup (No Sub) and life is good.
I control the Cable, Computer and PS4 to my 4k HDR TV.The Receiver and TV both have Arc suppport.


But I'm crazy and have decided I want a second TV. Ill place them side by side on the wall.
I want the ability to put any of my devices up on either screen.
Everything is together in one room.

So I just purchased the Orei HD-602 Matrix. (Also has Arc Support)
I want to be able to user the Receivers Audio as I have 7 Speakers, why not use them.
I know i wouldn't be able to have 2 TV's spitting out sound at the same time to the receiver/speakers. Id be happy to have the ability to click through the Matrix and put the screen I want on the Receiver's channel. The other TV, Ill use a Sound bar i guess.

So...
Is it possible to even do this? I quickly realized that there is no real way to have my devices plugged into the Receiver, plugged into the Matrix and Output to the TV. It would work fine without the Receiver, but of course I want to use my own receiver/speakers.
There's an Optical/SPDIF out on the Matrix and an optical In on the Receiver. Maybe that would work? I guess i would get into setup and switch the receiver Audio to SPDIF. Thoughts on that?

Can anyone share some of their AV Magic with me? I appreciate all thoughts and discussions.

Cheers.

-SacVegas
 

Joe Fernand

Distinguished Member
AVForums Sponsor
Pretty straightforward to achieve with the correct kit - why you would want to do it is another question :)

Plenty folk (well a few) have a second Display to preview/monitor a second Source, though you would normally keep the second feed mute and not have two audio Feeds/Devices playing at the same time.

Second Display - ideally has the same capabilities (4K UHD, HDR, DV etc) as your Primary Display.

Matrix - you would need to ensure it supports the highest video and audio formats your Source(s), AVR and Displays support, which would rule out using Optical Digital Audio unless you want to limit your Source to compressed audio formats.

Layout - hopefully you plan to keep the Primary Display Centred on your seating and the second Display offset to one side, which also makes setting up a second audio system tricky.

Room - do you have a layout of what you are planning, showing seating, display position, loudspeaker positions, seating etc

Kit - what Source devices are you using and what Display devices?

Joe
 

sacvegas

Novice Member
Pretty straightforward to achieve with the correct kit - why you would want to do it is another question :)

Plenty folk (well a few) have a second Display to preview/monitor a second Source, though you would normally keep the second feed mute and not have two audio Feeds/Devices playing at the same time.

Second Display - ideally has the same capabilities (4K UHD, HDR, DV etc) as your Primary Display.

Matrix - you would need to ensure it supports the highest video and audio formats your Source(s), AVR and Displays support, which would rule out using Optical Digital Audio unless you want to limit your Source to compressed audio formats.

Layout - hopefully you plan to keep the Primary Display Centred on your seating and the second Display offset to one side, which also makes setting up a second audio system tricky.

Room - do you have a layout of what you are planning, showing seating, display position, loudspeaker positions, seating etc

Kit - what Source devices are you using and what Display devices?

Joe
Thanks for the reply Joe.
The service display would be like the current. 4k, UHD newer smart Tv.

The Matrix will pass the 4k and can downscale. The edid's can also be custom set for sound (2.1-5.1-7.1)

For the layout and room, the TV's would be beside each other on the wall. The AVR is right below them and the speakers would be put around the room. I'd sit across from them on the couch. Audio of course I guess would only play on one TV. The other TV muted or plugged into a sound bar if I need.

So my Kit is:
-Denon s750h AVR- 5 HDMI in, one out with eArc. Dolby Atmos, 4k newer system.
7 speakers. Two of them upfiring for the Atmos.

-Two 55" 4k HDR TV's. (I only have one at the moment). Pretty standard smart TV's.

-Matrix: Orei HD-602 6x2 (6 in 2 out). Will transmit dual 4k at 30hz. Has Arc, and can customize edid for HDMI audio


It's like I'm missing an in-between piece. As of now I can only plug the sources like Cable box and PC into either the AVR or the Matrix. If I could somehow attach them all together, it seems like it would work.
Any ideas?

Or should I just use another AVR for the other TV, and strap a soundbar onto it? Then return the Matrix.
(I have a 5.2 ready 4k cheaper Pioneer available).
 

Joe Fernand

Distinguished Member
AVForums Sponsor
Matrix EDID does not in itself alter the audio or video passing through the Matrix it simply sets what audio and video the Source should Outout.

Your connectivity would be:

Source(s) > Matrix

Matrix Out A > AVR > AVR eARC > TV1 eARC

Matrix Out B > TV2

Matrix - ideally user assignable EDID and supports 4K UHD at 60/50Hz and 24p with HDR, DV and Atmos to be of any use to you.

TV2 - needs to support the same range of video formats as TV1.

Joe
 

sacvegas

Novice Member
Joe, you are the King.
Your advice got me hooked up and both Tv's are working on the Matrix.
Here's one that I cant figure out.
The new Smart TV has its Netflix/Disney+/Amazon TV buttons built into the remote. If I click those buttons and watch any content from those apps, it will only play through the TV Speakers. Also, the AVR speakers will keep playing whatever channel the Matrix was last set to. I trust it's because these apps have no physical link to the Matrix and AVR, so the on board apps just cant see it? ARC is enabled on everything. Any thoughts?
 

Joe Fernand

Distinguished Member
AVForums Sponsor
On the Smart TV if you are not seeing ‘external audio’ or something similar listed when you look at the Audio Out options in the TV menu try switching the TV to the other Output on the Matrix as only one Output will be ARC enabled.

Joe
 

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