Not to speak out of place, but I think this should be stickied, and I think there should be another similar thread in the PVR section. For ages I have wanted an STB that has either a component or HDMI output. At the moment I need the latter, since I don't have an amp and all the component inputs on my projector are used up, but I won't bore you with my setup/connection problems/financial limitations. I've been coming to both these forums looking to free myself from my composite quandary and there seem to be a million threads all as indefinitive as the last. It used to be that some PVRs had component out (Topfield 5800, the favourite in most respects fits this bill), but only one STB did: The Netgem I-player (also with HDMI) However, there has been a slew of HDMI-enabled STBs come out lately. It started with the Goodmans GDB15HD and then there were models from Bush DFTA16HD Wharfedale DV832HDMI Alba (supposedly Argos considers this model interchangeable with the goodmans, whafedale and bush, but i can't find it anywhere) Grundig (http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-9351.aspx), £42 ASDA's Dual Brand also has one - HDMI, £29, free HDMI cable It seems unclear whether or not all these models are simply clones of one another, but any additions to this list and opinions upon them would be most welcome. I am NOT interested in the upscaling capabilities of any of these models. I have just waded through this thread: http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=528212 and the last thing I want to do is start a debate as to whether or not any of these models scale better than built-in scalers on particular models of iDTV's. There are a ton of people, like me, who have displays that don't accept RGB scart, whether they have projectors or HDTV's without freeview built in, and simply need an STB with a better output than composite, be it HDMI or component, and there should surely be a list of those available in a forum like this, outlining EPG quality, the dreaded channel change delay, and any other issues. Cheers.