HDMI 1.3 AV Amps and 3D passthrough? Please post your experiences :)

Yes. The PS3 was not so long ago updated and can now pass DTS-HD Master Audio while also outputting sequential 3D video. It still cannot output TrueHD and 3D BD video simultaneously though.

 

ok cool thats brill, any ideas where that splitter can be got.
do you know much about these.
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i see these i doubt have edid so would be no good as it would send the hole signal to the amp and the amp would still show no source and have no sound.

 

There was already a link at the end of my post, but here it is again:
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thanks missed that.

 

So it won't do what i need then audio to my onkyo 875 and 3d picture to my tv direct.

 

sorry joe any more info.

 

hi joe thanks for that,
so is there any way to get hd sound frommy amp and 3d to the tv, like a bluray player with 2 hdmis out would that work or is the only way a new 3d amp which i dont want as i more than happy with my 875.

thinking maybe a bluray with 7.1 pre outs for sound and hdmi to tv for pic should work.

Also Joe you used the mark 2 with edid yeah.

 

ok thanks Joe. Will have to be a New blue ray player.
Thanks once again.

 

Others have reported this splitter to be working???

 

Thanks for the feedback

 

thanks dante and joe, will give it a miss and save a bit more and get a new player with dual hdmi.

 

Hi,

Ok currently have pc-hdmi-amp-tv

Planning to get a new tv soon with 3d bluray etc.

So can I buy a new gfx card for the pc with two hdmi outputs? One for sound on amp and the other for picture directly to the tv ?

That will save me buying a new amp !

 

Question, is it just 3d being the issue?

Can I still use my hdmi 1.3 amp for everything else?

 

It is only the sequential video signal associated with Blu-ray 3D that will not passthrough earlier incarnations of HDMI.

HDMI versions prior to 1.4 also lack ARC (Audio Return Channel) capability and cannot utilise the ethernet channel abilities awarded to version 1.4. These two features are in themselves not always apparent even if version 1.4 is incorporated into a device and neither are essential.

 

Yup doesn't work

Going via my Onkyo 507 3D films get a weird green / red tint.

Going direct to TV works perfectly.

So best option now is to buy an HDMI splitter ??

 

do you still get hd sound when watching 3d blu ray throught the amp even with a green red tint picture.

 

Yup, says 'HD MRST' on the amp.

 

well a splitter will be fine then my amps wont pass nothing so i get no audio to, the only way was to buy a new bluray player with twin hdmi ports on it.

 

Thanks. I asked neet and this is what they said

So not sure if a splitter would work ??

 

well if your inputting from a bluray and getting some some of picture and hd sound output then a splitter will work so you get picture to the tv direct and the amp still does the sound.

 

Splitters will not work. He requires a matrix. Splitters do not differentiate between signals so the return handshake will be that of the lesser device. THe lesser device is the amp and you therefore only get output that the amp's EDID complies with. This is why Neet suggest a matrix as opposed to a splitter.

 

Thanks all and getting complicated

So would something like this be ok :

1080P 3D 4 X 2 R/L IR Port HDMI MATRIX SWITCH SPLITTER AMPLIFIER HDTV PS3 SKY HD | eBay

I know it's cheap but just want to watch 3D ..... any more than that I may aswell sell my amp and get a new HDMI 1.4 one,

Thanks,

 

No idea without finding someone who has one to comment.

 

just an update have had to plug my sky hd into my onkyo 875 so thought i would give the amp a go at upscaling to 1080p and it does a good job, tried the sky 3d and it upscales that to which i was not expecting.

 

Hi, having now tried to setup my 3D bluray player via a 1.3hdmi AVR and 3D TV I've now hit this (albeit previously ignorant to me) problem with hdmi 3D passthrough and the fact that it will not work on my current avr. So, am I right in thinking that there still isn't an easy way to send 3D video from your bluray player to the TV via your hdmi 1.3 avr with just hdmi cables?

The only thing I've managed to do is to connect 3D bluray player directly to the TV via hdmi, then connect 3D bluray player direct to my avr with toslink/optical cable. Problem here is that you dont get the benefits of full HD audio like DTS Master HD etc. What are my other options without buying a new AVR? FWIW, I have a panasonic bdt320 bluray player, panasonic p50gt50 tv and an old pioneer vsx 2016 AV receiver.

 

I'm somewhat puzzled by many of the statements made in this thread. Hopefully someone can enlighten me.

First of all, the Wiki info quoted is slightly wrong in that it claims HDMI 1.3 has the same data capacity as 1.4 (correct I believe), but then states 1.3 CANNOT handle 3D which is not completely correct as many here have found that their 1.3 equipment does handle (some) 3D. Why not all though? Data throughput requirements?

But why would a 3D signal contain more data than 2D at the same resolution and frame rate?

Surely a 1080p/60Hz signal carries the same amount of data whether it's 2D, the picture is split either horizontally or vertically for 3D or indeed the L and R images are carried sequentially as on 3D BD?

When the image is split, or rather L and R are sent side by side (horiz or vert) each image is half the resolution of the full display, but the full frame is still the same 1920x1080 so why would there more data being carried.

Even with BD's frame packing format, each image is still the same resolution, it's just that each eye only receives them at half the speed, so again the same amount of data throughput is used.

Of course, if you double the frame rate (to e.g. 120Hz), then each eye sees the same rate as 2D (at 60Hz) and the data throughput is effectively doubled, but for the same resolution and frequency, data throughput for 3D surely is the same as for 2D.

So why do some HDMI 1.3 amps that will quite happily pass 2D 1080p, balk at 3D? Of course handshaking might be an issue, but why is there a technical problem? What is the frequency used by 3D BD players? If this is cranked up, then that might be a reason. Is that it?