HDMI 1.3 AV Amps and 3D passthrough? Please post your experiences :)

Hi all, i have a yammy DSP AX763, love this amp to bits, but havent found any insight as to whether it does 3d passthrough, can anybody shed any light on this?

 

Hi creid1,

Thanks for the heads up!

May I assume the rest of your setup consists of the devices you have listed in your signature (apart from 5300ES)? I have a 2400ES and although it's obviously not a 5400ES they are from the same generation, so your experience could apply to my devices as well...

Does your 5400ES pass through 3D games only, or 3D Blu-Ray as well? If so, do you use a PS3 to play 3D Blu-Ray movies?

Thanks for your help...

Burak

 

I have a Yamaha RX-V1065, a Panasonic TX-P42GT20 TV, a Panasonic DMP-BDT100 Bluray player and Sky HD/3D and I can confirm that Sky 3D passes through the amp. I haven't tested the BR player yet as I haven't got any 3D disks.

As my amp was with Yamaha for repair when the other components arrived, I connected both sources directly to the TV initially. I suspected/hoped the amp would pass the signal through, as it doesn't upscale any HDMI inputs as far as I'm aware. So, when I got the amp back I passed Sky 3D through it and it worked. The reason I mention this is in case I've inadvertantly got round any issues mentioned in various posts about the PS3 and the need to connect directly to the TV before trying with the amp.

I just need the same result with the BR player - it has only one HDMI output, which ideally I need to route through the amp to get HD sound.

 

Thank you very much for taking the time to post your findings

 

Hi
I have read the post and hope someone can answer my question. Yesterday I bought a panosonic vierra p50vt20 3d tv from richer sounds and the guy sold me 3, 1.4 hdmi cables as he said my old ones wouldn't work (even though they were very good at the time). I then said I was running them through a pioneer vsx1018ah amp and would this still work. He looked it up and because it only say 1.3a support he said it wouldn't. So I then bought a sr608 (onkyo) amp as well!

My dilemma now is I plugged it all through the Pioneer and it all worked. So should I take back the onkyo as it is still box sealed or am I losing picture quality which if so I'll keep it.

Thanks

 

The whole cable thing is (most likely) nonsense - if you haven't taken them out of the packaging and it's all working with the old cables, take them back.

I don't see how you'd lose picture quality by using your Pioneer. However, what 3D source are you watching? If it's Sky, then 3D BluRays might not work, it's all about bandwidth and various things that don't seem to have a clear definition in this case, it's hit and miss at the moment..

 

My Sony Str DG910 will not pass 3d signal

I unpluged from my set up played Black ops for 5 mins in 3d from my ps3 awesome then reconnected the reciever and its having none of it!!

But I did wonder if it would make any diffrence using hdmi 1.4 leads rather than the 1.3 that I have?? May be a cheaper option rather than buying a new reciever??

 

There's no such thing as an HDMI 1.4 cable. The cables are exactly the same as before and are categorised as being either category 1 (standard) or category 2 (high speed). Only the cables with the new HDMI 1.4 ethernet capabilities differ from the cables that preceded them.

Don't waste your money on new cables. You still will not get a 3D signal to passthrough your amp and you don't need the ethernet capabilities associated with any cable claiming to be HDMI 1.4 compliant.

http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/hdmi_1_4_faq.aspx#5


The category 2 cables previously associated with HDMI 1.3 are all you need for 3D and you only need new cables if you need to take advantage of HDMI 1.4's new ethernet capabilities, which in turn can only be utilised if all the HDMI interfaces involved are HDMI 1.4 and HDMI Ethernet Channel (HEC) enabled.

 

So its a new amp then, that'll please the missus (not).

I only got my dg910 about 18 months ago and thought that buying an amp with three hdmi inputs and 1 output would give me everything needed now and further down the line!

 

Sorry I ment 5300 . I have my sky 3d and ps3 running through 5300es with one hdmi to my 52hx903. The receiver passes through the 3d on both . The only problem I have is when I play black ops on ps3 it says 3d signal detected then screen goes black but I still hear sound via optical . It's only when I'm using 5300. So I'm guessing the 5300 which is 1.3 is struggling with 3d. But when I change device on 5300 remote then go back to ps3 it works fine (5300 passes through 3d)

I don't own any 3d bluerays to test

Sky 3d works
Black ops 3d works
And I'll test GT5 3d on Wednesday when it arrives

Also I'm using 1.4 cables

 

Hi All.

Any updates on what amps do and dont work?

Cheers

 

OK
Just got a 3d TV and:
I have a Yamaha DSP-AX863SE, a Panasonic TXP50VT20B TV, a Panasonic DMP-BDT100 Bluray player and VuDuo motorised HD/3D and I can confirm that Sky 3D and 3Dfrom other sat providers pass through the amp. I haven't tested the BR player yet as I haven't got any 3D disks but will report back when tested.

 

Hi all
I have a Pioneer LX52 amp, the amp passes through my PS3 3D signal on motorstorm Rift,, V+ box passes through 3D OK. I have a Pioneer 3D Blu ray at the moment (borrowed from shop whilst waiting for mine), this dosnt pass through the amp and I have had to connect direct to the TV. I am using 1.3 cables on everything as well.

I have ordered a Panasonic BD300 player for the dual HDMIs as I didnt know wether my amp would pass through the signal.
It seems my amp will pass through a 3D Signal but not a Full HD 3D Signal so as long as im on 720 for PS3 and V+ shouldnt be a problem.
To be honest my V+ box looks better on 720 for most things anyway, so its just the PS3. If and when I get a 3D game in full HD 3D I will try it and see, most games are in DTS or DD so shouldnt be a problem if I connect PS3 direct to TV and optical to amp

 

I know this is an old thread, but having searched high and low i could not find an answer anywhere. So I thought I'd share my experience.

I have a Yamaha DSP-AX863SE amp, an early PS3 and a Panasonic TX-P50VT20B. The amp sort of works...

Connecting the PS3 via HDMI (not "1.4" - i know theres no such thing) to the amp and no optical cable the PS3 recognises the 3D TV and will play games in 3D, however when I tried to play a 3D Blu Ray I get a blank screen and the amp PCM indicator flickers wildly, I've tried many PS3 audio and video settings but couldnt get it play. So the PS3 is now HDMI to TV and optical to the amp.

Now do i buy a new amp or a Blu ray player with 2 HDMI...

 

Hi,

Are there any experiences with the BD player set on 1080i when connecting using HDMI to the AV? There is an article here:

HDMI 1.3 Will Support 3D After All | High-Def Digest

that seems to suggest that 1.3 could support 3D as long as is downgraded from 1080p to 1080i. That would explain why most of the TV boxes seem to work (they use 1080i or for 3d 720p). It might be possible those PS3's that work are in the same situation.

 

Good point, but i can say that the TV indicated that it was receiving a 1080p 3D image from the game (Wipeout & GT5).

 

Read this thread with interest as im struggling with my current set up..

i have the panasonic TX-p50VT20
ps3 slim
yamaha 1065 amp..

ive set hdmi to through but no joy - it trys handshaking and drops the picture, it goes through its own circuit where it displays 3d pic - drops it trys it again and drops it etc etc..

Any ideas??

 

forgot to say..

im trying to play gt5 in 3d going through rx-v1065 and im strugglin!

anyone help?

 

Hey all, has anyone tried 3D with an Onkyo TX-SR507, as i own one of these and was looking to get a Panasonic Viera TX-P50VT20B in the next day or two?

 

FYI tried STR-DH800 and it does not work, even with the workaround method

 

Onkyo TX-RS606 failed to pass through the 3D handshake.
I've used a 1.3a cable going from the PS3 and 1.4 going to the screen (LG LW 650t).

I don't think I need to buy another 1.4 cable to test it, going from what people on here are saying.
£400 wasted on that amp.
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That's a shame but there might be light at the end of the tunnel yet. I got a similar problem, but I am using a Neet splitter and I think I might have a working 3d & bluray viewing configuration. Will report back later as I have a problem with blinking picture when viewing video atm, but a full Neet configuration (Neet splitter and Neet cables) might have done the trick. Will need to watch something tonight to confirm.
At the moment my 3d games are working, via PS3 through my non-3d amp (Sony strdh800)

 

Thanks for the reply.
So your using the splitter to split the feed to the amp AND to the TV?
That's just the same as connecting the PS3 directly to the TV and using the optical out to the amp.
I didn't want to have to change channel on the TV, and run another cable across the wall, but it looks like I'll have to compromise as it's better than spending loads on a new amp.
Cheers.
Dave.

 

I got the following all via HDMI:
PS3 --> Splitter input
Splitter Output 1 --> TV
Splitter Output 2 --> Amp --> TV

I got optical connected from PS3 to Amp, only because I found games like Killzone3 don't output sound via hdmi for 3D, but blurays play fine, with HD sound and everything.
I haven't got any 3d blurays to test yet, but the PS3 sports illustrated demo works fine.

 

I've now got the PS3 connected to the amp as Optical Audio only.
And HDMI going straight to the screen for the picture.
I'm still not sure why you need the splitter box, as this set-up now works for everything.

Although, I did have to add 50ms to the A/V Sync to get the timing correct. But now it's all in sync and working.

Dave

 

Optical doesn't do hd audio formats.

 

Does anyone know whether the big Denons (A1HD, 4810 etc) pass through a 3D signal?

 

OK, you mean TrueHD? That's not a real-world issue for me, human ears can't hear anything above ~18Khz, so playing back stuff with a 48Khz nyquist frequency seems a little extreme to me, especially in my non-scientifically ordered living room! Speakers on the other hand...
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Ok guys tried this in a different forum and got no response so i found this thread thought i might try again here. Trying to get an idea of how much it will cost me to upgrade my tv to 3D. So i really need to know how much of my AV setup if any i need to change? I have my Tivo and BD player going through my amp and then on to the tv, all connected with 1.3 HDMI cables. Do i need to upgrade my amp and or my BD player and also my cables? As they are discretely buried in the plaster. Any help would be appreciated thanks.

Sony STR-DG820 Amp
Sony BDP-S350 BD player

 

Hi,
By no means a Pro on this but I have been looking myself and have found that to watch 3D and to get True HD DD/DTS sound with 3D Blu-ray you need to either purchase an AV Receiver with the 1.4 HDMI spec or a dual HDMI out Blu-Ray 3D player. Tivo would work using same AV and cables