I've more or less decided on E85 and AVLand seems pretty good deal at 549 for MR deck and 50 DVD-Rs. I'm curious about one thing with all HDD video recorders: Do the HDDs have to be reorganised or defragmented at all? I ask because it has to be done peridically on a PC . Or do the HDD video recorders just rely on the fact that as the space is used by comparatively few large 'files' (programmes), compared with a PC which can have thousands of files spread around, then it more or less sorts itself out as programmes are added and removed? I can't find anything about a 'tidy up' process in the Panny HS2 or E100 manuals I downloaded.