HD945/HD950 and HD845/HD850 confusion

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  1. Stampax

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    Have decided to buy a new dvd player as mine is starting to argue with some of my discs (and is 5 years old now), and am also getting a new plasma soon with lots of fancy connections on the back (ie HI-DEF ready, prob the new Panasonic V500).

    Having read through some threads it seems that one of the DVD players mentioned in the title are the ones to go for - however, despite being so readily recomended by people on here, and incredibly hard to actually get. One of the key problems seems to be that - and correct me if im wrong - the 945/845 are the UK models, whilst the '50 models are the USA ones- and the USA ones seem to be the only ones available.
    I can find the HD850 available online for about 90 quid, and the 950 for an extra 20 quid - which is best togo for. Is right the only difference is one plays DVD Audio, and has both DVI and HDMI?

    So is it a problem getting the USA models rather than the English ones? I don't really get it, seeing as home cinema review raved about (the 945 model) it in the March edition - have just read the review online....so where the hell is it, and why can i only get the 950?
     
  2. zeropoint

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    I may be wrong, but I think the 745/945 are UK/Europe, and the 841/941 are US, and the 850/950 are UK/US successors to the respective models of each region. The equivalent of the 745 is the 747 in Australia too, I think.
     
  3. JimmyCobra

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    This is my opinion on the new samsung HD range

    i looked into buying one, and gave up.My reasons where that samsung seem
    to have messed up their marketing, their players have different names for
    obvious reasons like 950 has sacd and dvd-a it also has output for more audio
    devices. None of these mattered to me, i was concerned about macroblocking,
    samsung use two different chips the Faroudja which is supposed to have macro
    blocking issues and the zoran, only trouble is that samsung advertise Faroudja
    technology on a dvd player yet the chip could be zoran.it could all be down to date of manufacture.At first i wanted a Faroudja chip because samsung seem to praise it and give it a premium pricing in their players, but people reported issues with macroblocking and the cheaper zoran chips where better
    P.Q

    its a mine field at the moment, and a game of chance which chip you could get.

    this is just my opinion based on things i have read in forums and reviews round the web, i cant be sure its all 100% accurate but it was enough to
    leave my money in my pocket for now
     
  4. Stampax

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    Yeah, i'm about as confused as you then!
    SO - what player should I get?????? What did you go for?
     
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    The 745/841 uses Zoran Vaddis 7 for flag-based deinterlacing; the 945/941 supposedly uses Faroudja/Genesis FLI23xx, but some say they use Vaddis too - although maybe DCDi algorithm implemented in Vaddis 7(??); the 850/950 both use Vaddis 778, I think. All non-Genesis models use Zoran hdXtreme for scaling.
     
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    Sorry I dont speak Klingon.....what are you on about!??
     
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    DaHjaj SuvwI'e' jiH. tIgwIj Sa'angNIS. Iw bIQtIq jIjaH :D
     
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    Samsung seem to have dug themselves a very big hole to fall into with the 745/945 850/950 issue. You only have to look at all the threads with problems, confusion, bugs, what's in what and when.

    That's partly why, and constant changes of the 950 delivery dates, I canceled mine.

    It's just a mess.
     
  9. PJTX100

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    The Samsung players aren't the easiest to track down but they are available.

    I don't think you'd go wrong with either the 850 (out now) or the 950 (not out yet).

    That said, you may well get just as good quality (or better) with something like the Pio 575 via component... but unless you try them both, you'll not know which looks best to you.

    HDMI/DVI/upscaling DVD players can be very attractive in concept but it's not a guarantee of the best pic quality vs a decent player running component.

    ..PJ :)
     
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    Fully understand where you are coming from, perhaps Samsung have stretched themselves by trying to offer too much for too little.

    For me the one thing which Stops the samsung being a very good machine is controllability - especially sharpness. The Pio offers great sharpness adjustment, the Samsung offers none. This may not be an issue for small(ish) screens but on an 83" pic the Samsung can look slightly soft - though I do like sharp pics!

    However I do feel these are still very good machines for the money and many of the "bugs" could be viewed as features which many other DVD players probably also suffer from.

    This is cutting edge stuff for the price of a decent meal out. Samsung should be applauded for at least letting us dabble without having to break the bank...PJ :thumbsup:
     
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    I agree with PJ, these machines are excellent value for money if if they do have some annoying points. I have the 945 and dont regret buying it. With HD DVD and Blueray not that far away the sammys make good stop gap machines. PQ through HDMI on the 945 is superb and no macro blocking issues. :smashin:
     
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    i hooked up the computer through dvi to dvi to plasma. seems to be the way its going at the moment, picture quality is exellent.Its not the way i wanted to go, but a local store had the 850 and a pc with media center hooked up
    to an hitachi plasma. I thought the picture from the pc was better.
    Dont get me wrong the 850 picture blew my current dvd player away,but you do need either hdmi or dvi input telivision to get the best results from the upscaling samsungs.
    but when a salesman talks you out of spending £100+ and says get a dvi cable for £10 you have to give it a go.
     
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    Hi Jimmy,

    Glad you got something sorted. I was toying with the pc idea but my laptop doesnt have a dvi so the sammy will have to do until until the next gen dvds come out. Like you said the PQ on the sammys is great, no doubt your pc has a better drive. :smashin:
     
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    Might be worth pointing out that pixmania can do the Sammy 850 for £89 inc delivery at the moment, and they are in stock
     
  15. Stampax

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    Thanks hamd01 - very tempted to go for this. Seems about 50 quid cheaper than the s97.....
     
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    Hi Brian

    I have not gave up on the hd players, my £10 cable has bought me some time.Reason is the PC is tied up when watching a DVD now,and with three
    people here all fighting for a seat it feels crowded.And i cant go back to watching DVDS on the old player, its just not the same anymore.
     
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    anybody have anymore info when the samsung hd-950 is due out ive heard 26 june.
     
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    Well they must be telling porkies because i ordered one from them on the 1 may and have still not had mine.
     
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    I dunno what samsung are playing at, theyve got a player which has so much for so little and loads of internet publicity and getting hold of it is a nightmare. I dont trust pixmania and digiuk dont have any in stock. The high street stores are awash with cheaper samsung players and even tottenham court road doesnt have any. Youd have thought with decent marketing they could put these in all high street stores and make a killing. Frankly i've given up on the 945/950 and will wait for bluray/hddvd
     
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    Why dont you trust pixmania - i was gonna order the 850 from them?
     
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    If i dont get my samsung hd-950 soon from digiuk i gonna cancel my order.
     
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    Just rang digiuk and they are saying the first stock of the hd-950 samsung will be bringing to the uk will be on july 18 so i canceled my order and am going to look for something else but for twice the price.
     
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    :hiya:

    Pixmania are very good at telling porkies on delivery dates, usually they dont even have them in stock. Do a search on them in the forums and you'll read more than a few reasons to be wary.
     
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    Hi there,

    It's a question of personal experience really....I ordered a Samsung HD-945 from Pixmania and received four days later, good comms as well :)

    Digital Point on the other hand were useless IMO :mad:

    Just my two pennies worth....

    Steve
     
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    My 850 turned up this morning from Empire direct.Just over £100 including delivery and lightning fast delivery time.

    I am spending Thursday hooking it all up to my system and cant wait to see the improvement over my ageing Sony 735.
     
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    You'll see an improvement picture wise but the dvd player will probably drive you mad after the user friendly sony.
    Mine has.
     
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    I ordered my 850 from PixMania on Thursday night, and it arrived today, brilliant!! Have only tried it on a CRT so far, waiting for my Samsung 32" LCD to arrive from Empire.
     
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    Waiting anxiously for how annoying/bad you find all these software glitches ppl are moaning about?
     
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    Tell me what will drive me mad.

    MAybe I shouldn't know.May get too stressed!
     

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