HD totaled - argghhhhh!

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  1. Boris Blank

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    Flippin' hard drive in my HTPC just died - the whole lot down the friggin' swanee!! *** :mad:

    Looks like the whole of the boot sector has been corrupted and I am unable to access the drive using a boot disc. I'll could try attaching the drive as a slave to another drive but I can't be bothered.

    I can probably recover most/all of it but as I'll need a new drive anyway, I might as well start afresh as its a lot less hassle.

    F'ing weeks, months of work gone in a flash. HTPC sucks sometimes, it really does!
    An unhappy chappy
     
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    Maybe time to think about Raid mirroring ?
     
  3. Boris Blank

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    Well, its just my luck that the HTPC is already prepped for RAID but I was waiting until it was fully and finally configured HTPC-wise before coughing up for 2nd HD. Another few weeks and I'd have been all set - bloody Sod's Law that it would go down just as things were damn near spot on! Blinking drive is only about 18 months old as well - IBM Deskstar, I'll not be buying another one.

    I wouldn't worry but it grinded a ggod few times a couple of weeks ago but eventually cleared itself and haven't had a problem since I did a check on the drive surface etc but it didn't show up anything untoward although I knew at time that something was wrong but lapsed into misjudged complacency when it didn't occur again - I know better than to allow this sort of thing to happen, thats what annoys me more than anything!

    Bloody HTPC will be the death of me yet I tell ya!
    Paul
     
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    So damn unpredictable m8 PC's.
     
  5. Boris Blank

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    Yep, just like women!

    To turn this catastrophe into something useful, I might as well get a new larger Fluid Bearing drive and upgrade the HD in the SKY+ box with that and use the SKY+ drive as the replacement for the HTPC. I'll worry about backup etc once I've got things up and running again.

    I wouldn't care but theres not a single drop of drink in the house tonight to drown me sorrows - never rains but it pours :(
    Paul
     
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    I dunno, I saw the magic 'Deathstar' name in there somewhere. Be this a lesson to all: When an IBM deathstar drive (especially teh 75GXP range) makes clicky scratchy noises, the thing will die soon.

    PaulB you want to go here to sort out an RMA for your drive. You'll have to send it to Holland, but postage is only about £3.
     
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    Bummer.

    I've had 3 IBM drives fail me in as many desktop machines in the last 3 years. No problems with the 2 Maxtor or 2 Western Digital ones yet, touch wood!

    The IBM 7200 drives seem to run quite hot, but that's just a hunch.

    regards,
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  8. Boris Blank

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    Nutcase,
    Thanks for that, I'll give it a try and see what happens - its way cheaper than a new drive only downside is that it'll still be an IBM drive:( Deathstar - lol

    Rob,
    3 drives! IBM must be losing a fortune on all these duff drives - to think they were once top of the tree PC-wise.
    Paul
     
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    You might be interested in this article about the 75GXP...

    Regards
     
  10. Boris Blank

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    Desticado,
    Blimey, the situation is a lot more widespread than I thought! Its farcical that there hasn't been a recall or at least an official warning about having to keep the thing cool.

    I think I will get another drive afterall - too much to risk getting another Deskstar by way of replacement.
    Thanks,
    Paul
     
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    Only problem is that Sky+ boxes won't take anything other than the 5400 rpm Maxtors and these don't seem to be available in the UK in the FDB format. I've got the 4G120J6 120Gb drive and it is still just a little too noisy for my Sky+. (not a bad drive though). Had exactly the same cunning plan as you, but drive is currently sat in a PC instead...still for sale if anyone wants it though ;)

    If anyone knows a good UK source for 5400 FDB Maxtors I'd love to know.

    Regards,

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  13. Boris Blank

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    Well, I tried the IBM tech support link and now have an RMA number. However, they want the drive returned to the USA which is a whole different ballgame - post to the US is expensive.

    I've just sent an email to IBM UK asking if the return to the USA is a joke or an attempt to put people off from returning their defective drives.

    We'll see what they come back with - doubt I'll get anywhere but its always worth making a fuss about things like this. You pay good money for something only to find that support once they have your money dwindles somewhat. (Ok, I know IBM are possibly willing to change the drive but to return a UK purchased drive to the US is a bit rich!).

    Paul
     
  14. nutcase_1uk

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    Flippn 'eck! That's a bit crazy, no I wouldn't stand for having to send it to the states. You might be able to get teh place you bought teh drive from handle it for you. Oh, btw, it can take about 6 weeks to get a replacement drive :eek: mine took 4, but I gather I was lucky...

    Shall I ever buy another IBM drive? Nope.
     
  15. Orbital

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    You'll have a hard time buying another IBM drive anyway as IBM don't make hard drives anymore. They sold it off to Hitachi Data systems for $2.05 billion along with all intellectual property etc.

    Well when I say sold it off, in reality a new company was created of which Hitachi own 70%.

    Fujitsu are suffering with a similar problem on one of there models too CLICK HERE

    Cheers

    Dave
     
  16. rhinoman

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    Ian

    Not true, the new Maxtor 120gb FDB 7200 works a treat in my Sky+, got it from ebuyerfor about £120
     
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    Um, sorry, a new company called Xyratex was formed from IBM late in 1994 by a management buyout. I do not know what the situation is now, but that's what it was when I worked there.

    We've had about 300 Fujitsu HDDs replaced at work! the MoD bought about 3000 machines with these HDDs!
     
  18. Orbital

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    Urm well I still work at IBM and I'm afraid those are facts

    Cheers

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    Hey, no problem, I bow to your greater (and current!) knowledge! :D

    So who owns Xyratex now then? Is it Hitachi? Or am I thinking of another company?
     
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    I should have posted a link explaining about the IBM/Hitachi thing, would have avoided confusion. Just to carify CLICK HERE

    Your quite right about Xyratex though, they were formed by a management buyout but they don't actually manufacture hard drives or anything like that. They supply storage and network solutions etc.

    Cheers

    Dave
     
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    Hey, thanks John, that's good news. All the reports around I'd seen said that 7200 drives don't work.

    Two questions;
    -what is the exact model no. of your drive?
    -is it much noisier than the standard disk?

    Thanks.

    Ian Guinan
     
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  23. Boris Blank

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    Not at all John, there is a common link all the way through the thread and it was me that raised the Sky+ link, so I'm certainly not bothered.

    In any case I'm guilty of hi-jacking a few myself so fair do's!
    Paul
     
  24. Boris Blank

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    ***!!!!!! You wouldn't believe it! The 2nd Hard Drive that I got from IBM just died with exactly the same problems as the first one!

    Back it goes. Luckily, IBM are getting out of the Hard Drive business - I wonder why!!!?

    What a waste of time these drives are.

    Paul

    [swearing removed by nutcase_1uk]

    Sorry about the swearing.
     
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    I know exactly how you feel mate!!! :mad:

    I RMA'd my 40gb one..they've sent me a 60gb Hitachi labelled one now...which seems much better....but i ain't taking the risk...soon i'll just get a Seagate and give this one to my little sister when i build her a shuttle.:rotfl:
     
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    Maxtor have ejoyed a reliable reputation.

    The new Seagate has been quoted as one of the quietest drives around.

    If you dont want to go the raid rout buy two small drives (40Gig - Amazing that 40gig is now the smallest you can buy, although there are some 20gig still around) and use the second for a ghost image. Then if one goes t&ts up you always have the ghost image.

    Just a thought
     

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