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HD Ready 50" 1280x768 £1, 489

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  1. Waynej

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    Jesus what a bargain, its called the Samsung SPL6 50" Widescreen Rear Projection DLP TV with Stand

    apsolouply blown away by the quality from watching it on qvc, LINK

    I know it has HDMI, not sure if its got component though, if everyone else could find out and find better deals on the price elsewhere let me know, as i'm seriously thinking of taking the plunge on this from what iv seen
    so far
     
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    Firstly your link doesn't work, visit www.qvcuk.com and search for item No: 554465 instead. Also its sold out, it now on waiting list only.
     
  3. Waynej

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    yeh, i know its on waiting list, but i'm still amazed at the price, am i missing something here, is it crap and im not seeing it, cause i just seen it on QVC on tv and it looked amazing. are rear projections dlp's suitable for gaming though, as it'd be mainly used for 360, skh hd and ps3
     
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    RPTV defnately isnt the way forward, HD ready or not. As already mentioned they have their problems and the sets tend to be absolutely huge !

    If you want a 50" better to wait for the new lcd screens to come down to an affordable level. You can already get a decent 32" HD lcd screen for around 800 quid the prices are comming down all the time.
     
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    If youre going to spend that much on a DLP make sure you go see it in the flesh first. I was all for the SP50 and saw it in a store and was turned off instantly because the viewing angle was appauling.
     
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    Yeah RP DLP viewing angels are sh!te!!!!!!!!
     
  8. Waynej

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    yeh, looks good though, got my eye on the 32" sammy everyones raving about, which would be a nice edition to the living room. But I think the 26" sammy would more than do for me as games are primarily played upstairs in my small bedroom, so would be good to get it mounted as well.
     
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    Loads of decent HD ready LCD 32@ sets available for around 800 quid. In 6 - 12 months 42 - 50 inch will be sub 1000 I reckon.

    CRT is dead.

    Most manufacturers are already scrapping their CRT production. LCD screens are actually pretty cheap to make in big volumes compared to CRT. Once the new plant comes online in China / Korea prices will fall quickly.
     
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    Get a PJ! There's HD ready PJ's around now for £800 (such as the Z3 which I own). Once you've gamed in HD on a 100" diagonal screen you will not go back to anything else. Naturally the only real downside to a PJ is that you need a light controlled room and generally a good 3 metres throw distance but if that's not a problem then it's the best option IMO. :smashin:
     
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    sounds good, whats the resolution on it and what type of screen would i need to buy, and does it have component and hdmi inputs?
     
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    - Native Resolution is 720p (although it upscales 480p to 720p well and downscales higher res like 1080p very well too!). &20p is perfect for 360 though.

    - I made my own screen using a wooden frame and some blackout materiat. DOes a superb job and cost about £15 to make :smashin: .

    - It has 2 component and 1 HDMI input as well as S-Vid, VGA and composite!

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    Projectors are great if you have the space. I have an ae500 which is HD ready. I have done around 1400 hours on it so far. Hope it last until the 360 shows up.
     
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    I'd love to get the projector if I had the space, but I'd also be worried about having to make the room as dark as possible before using it!
     
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    Definately need a light controlled room. Any ambient light severely reduces the quality / playability of games particuarly those with alot of dark content.

    I still dont think its viable unless you have a dedicated room. Its a lot of messing with the screen and postioning of the projector. Most people wont want to mess up a room they are already using. Also have to factor in the bulb life. I have only had mine a year and a half and thee bulb is comming towards the end of its usable life already. replacements at 300 quid a go arent cheap.
     
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    Projectors can be a real pain, and take ALOT more time to setup than a TV. You can spend hours faffing with those things, and I'd rather just get on and watch TV/DVDs/Xbox without worrying about picture settings, lamp life, dust blobs, mounting, screen type etc. If you are already spending too much time on this forum, then a projector is the worst thing you could buy.

    They shouldn't be considered as an alternative to a general purpose TV, more like a supplementary big screen for when you want a proper session.

    Sometimes you'll just want to flick the TV on for a few seconds to check the news or to see whose on Xbox Live, but with PJs you cannot do this. You need to wait for them to warm up/down to help conserve lamp life, and having the curtains drawn everytime you use it can get rather depressing.

    If you use it alot you can expect to buy a lamp every 12 months and depreciation on PJs is horrendous.
     
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    But, as you say, as a supplementary screen alongside a good TV you cannot beat a PJ! There is nothing like playing a good game on a 100+" screen.

    I use the Xbox on the TV during the day or if I just want 30 minutes on it to pass the time but night sessions are always on the projector as the experience is enhanced so much by it.
     
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    Well in this case I don't think it's a good recommendation. Waynej has already said that a 26" LCD could suffice as he mostly plays games upstairs in his small bedroom - why oh why is he being told to get a PJ?

    They are fun, but nearly all PJ owners here also have a TV to use alongside it.
     
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    I would NEVER recomend a projector as a sole viewing device unless it was in a purpose built/used cinema room.

    They are great as second viewing devices to create a truly cinematic experience when watching movies and to enhance other viewing experiences such as TV and games systems.

    That is all I was saying...not that he should go out and buy a pj and forget all about an LCD or plasma :(
     
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    Sorry MacReady - I know you didnt actually make the recommendation and I didnt say that you did either - I was just saying that the earlier recommendation wasn't the right one from my experience, even though PJs are alot of fun.

    I'm in the market for a 32" LCD, which will probably end up being the Samsung, but I do know that the X360 will be the most fun on the Z3.
     
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    Ahh don't worry about it...I was not taking it personally or anything, just wanted to re iterate that I was not recomending a pj for sole use :smashin:

    I am currently looking to replace my TV with either a 45/46" DLP RPTV or a 42" plasma and it is a minefield out there :( The Samsung SP46 is at the top of the list at the moment followed by the Hitachi 6600...I don't really want to spend above 1.5k though as I us ethe projector and TV pretty much 50/50 through the week when I come home from work whilst the 29" Sony in the bedroom gets used by my Wife most of the time.
     
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    I feel the same way. When I can afford to get a PJ, I'll keep my plasma for day-to-day viewing. I can't justify it as a sole-viewing device!
     
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    I use mine in my office. Basically the Z3 sits on a shelf on one wall and I have a home made fixed frame screen that I store beside my arcade cabinet on one wall. To play I just grab the screen and hook it onto 2 screws in the far wall and position it with a pencil line on the wall. Then I fire up the PJ and i'm away! Takes about 1 minute to set up and whilst it's obviously more hassle than just flicking on a TV or LCD screen, it's not really much of a problem at all. The Z3 will run for a good 3000 hours easy on low bulb settings and in the last 2 months i've done about 70 hours. Considering that I got a free bulb with my Z3 (all for £850) then that's around 6000 hours life span. Going by my current useage that's around 170 months or 14 years use! I would definately thing that I would get a new PJ probably before the first bulb expires, never mind the 2nd. The price is even cheaper than I paid now (£821) and considering you get a free bulb that's a right bargain for a 720p projector! See here :thumbsup:


    EDIT: Of course you wouldn't use a PJ as your main TV but that's not what we are discusing here. As a gaming/movie display they can't be beat IMO and mine didn't take that much setting up at all and I hardly fiddle with it now i've got it set up with Rone's settings. I have 2 CRT's (a 29" 4:3 and 32" 16:9) for general viewing and once HDTV takes off i'll buy a decent LCD for general viewing. What I do know though is that I will always own a PJ from now on as well. Once you've had one you just can't go back.
     
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    nice how much would i be looking to pay for the projector, and are the bulbs expensive to replace?
     
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    Oh nevermind got your link, didn't realise it got to 2 pages, yeah I have a small room, what would be an ideal screen, can you post a link to about a 50-80inch screen(i think something like that would be a good size for my room. and does the projector have to be mounted to the ceiling?
     
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    To be honest I just made my own screen - cost about £15 for a 100" diagonal (about 7 ft wide). Just get some wood from B&Q and a big enough length of blackout material from a fabric shop, cut the wood to the right lengths and screw together to form a rectangle. Add some cross beams to strengthen the frame and then stretch & staple the fabric over it! I then got some black iron on fabric stripping (again from a fabric shop) and ironed that onto the edges of the screen material to give a black border.

    Then just hang it up and bingo! If you want to buy one then you can end up paying severel hundred quid for a screen. I'm not really up on where to get one from so you're probably best asking in the PJ Screen forums if you want to buy one.

    Generally I think you are supposed to be sat around 1.5 times the width of the screen back. So with my screen I need to sit around 3 - 3.5 metres back. I sit around 2.5m - 3.m back and find that OK (no visable screen door - i.e. when you can see the individual pixels). You don't have to mount on the ceiling but that is one option. I just have mine on top of a cabinet and as long as there's adequate ventilation around it, then you will be fine. You can also wall mount (with the unit flat to the wall and the projector projecting towards the ceiling) and use a mirror to reflect the image to the screen. You can set the PJ depending on how you have it set up. :smashin:
     

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