Looking for a HD flip camera. Are they any good? And are there any at decent prices? Thanks.
Ok Barnabell, Ill do my best. Let me start by telling you I work for Kodak just so that were all clear about that from the start! Ill tell you a little bit about Pocket Video Cameras in general and then some models to look out for.
So on to your first question are they any good? I think the best answer to this is yes, they are excellent, but know what youre buying. All Pocket Video Cameras have some limitations vs. traditional camcorders, mainly
1. Very few have any optical zoom
2. They have smaller sensors so low light filming can be harder
3. Not many have image stabilisation
4. They are simple to use so very few buttons. i.e not many setting for you to change
Thats the negatives, but:
1. They are much, much smaller
2. They are great value for money
3. They are made with sites like YouTube and Facebook in mind, so uploading videos is really simple
4. They produce amazing results. People are always surprised that something so small and (relatively) cheap can produce such a great result
The whole category came about because people started shooting videos very differently. Rather than a large professional device, a lot of people just wanted something small that could record really good quality videos that could then be uploaded to the internet. They are hugely popular too, have a look on Amazon at the best-selling camcorders, most of them are Pocket Video Cameras.
Personally a pocket video recorder is more useful to me than a traditional camcorder. The size, and price more than make up for any technical limitations and the files that are produced are easy to mess around with in a way I want to use them. Thats just my opinion though; Ive read many people say that no optical zoom make them an instant no. just depends how you want to use them.
So, onto which one to buy and this is where Ill try my best to be neutral! I read a lot of reviews on the Kodak Zi8 which is our latest model. Its done really well. It won a group test in Stuff magazine last month and generally it is considered to be one of the very best in its class. Id seriously look at the Zi8 along with the Flip range and I think youre on the right path
The Flip range has also been very successful, and I guess if you want an HD model then the Flip Ultra HD is the one for you to look at. I have seen countless comparisons of Kodak models vs Flip models and the most neutral thing I can say is theres not much in it. This website has a really in-depth comparison of the two
The Portable HD Video Recorder Smackdown: Flip UltraHD vs Kodak Zi8 | HighTechDad Blog
Have a read around, check out sample videos on YouTube and Vimeo and if theres anything specific just ask.
Hope thats useful
Concert footage should be fine. You have the option of using an external mic with the Zi8 that would obviously help, but even without it you can expect pretty good results. Whilst I haven't directly compared the two, I don't think you'll see an enormous difference. When Flip and Kodak are reviewed the audio performance is normally pretty similar.
As always it depends how and what you're trying to film. Learn how to use the camera with light ("good" light and bad light) and try to hold it still and you'll be very happy with the results.
Let me just give you a couple of other things to think about
if you're away for a few days, would non-expandable memory concern you? That's one big difference between Kodak and Flip. With Kodak you'll need to but an extra SD card so that's an extra expense, but with Flip if you fill the memory and can't access a computer, you'll need to delete your files to create space. In fairness I haven't heard many Flip users complain about this so maybe in reality it's not an issue, but something to think about.
Secondly, where's the festival?! I was at Glastonbury a few years ago and to say it was wet would be an understatement! If you're planning on filming in the UK then I would suggest looking at a water resistant model or waterproof housing! Have a look at the new Kodak Playsport.
If the battery thing is important you might want to look at the Kodak Zx1 too. AA batteries, water resistant and £50 on Amazon.
Sorry this is all Kodak specific, I'm just not in the best position to comment on Flip products. Both brands are reviewed well so you're probably starting from the right place!
Hope that helps
Just found this on YouTube thought it maybe of some help to others when trying to decide
YouTube - Kodak PlaySport vs. Flip Ultra HD (side-by-side)
I would love to say thats helped!!!! But it hasnt!!!
The kodaks do seem to have a much crisper picture but is so much worse in low light!!!! you need both kodak for day shooting and flip for night and indoor!
Are these any good? The price is good but not sure about the spec and performance compared against the Flip and the Playsport
Kodak Zi6 1.6mp 128mb HD Pocket Video Camcorder - Black - Ebuyer