HD-DVD 360 developer interview

rover2002

Novice Member
No HDMI then.They also don't mention if the unit up converts SD-DVD to 1080P.
 

PlexShaw

Well-known Member
rover2002 said:
No HDMI then.They also don't mention if the unit up converts SD-DVD to 1080P.
Given that the 360 only goes up to 1080i anyway, why would you expect it to do that? Or am I asking a thicko question? :confused:
 

rover2002

Novice Member
PlexShaw said:
Given that the 360 only goes up to 1080i anyway, why would you expect it to do that? Or am I asking a thicko question? :confused:
It would be an added bonus, although i really doubt it will have.It will be a bare bones player at the end of the day to keep the cost down, still it should make a good gift.
 

richard plumb

Distinguished Member
I think - even though lack of ICT flag allows HD output - that there is another flag that limits component to 1080i (even though technically it could handle 1080p)
 

AgentCool

Well-known Member
I think most 360 owners (myself included) will only want a 1080i output anyway because that is all their TV can handle. If you had invested in a 1080p set, chances are you'd be willing to purchase a stand-alone player instead of a cheap add-on.
 

Angry the Clown

Novice Member
I think - even though lack of ICT flag allows HD output - that there is another flag that limits component to 1080i (even though technically it could handle 1080p)
That's correct, yes. The core AACS copy protection system itself is the limiting factor in allowing (or in this case not allowing) anything beyond 1080i over component on both HD DVD and Blu Ray.
 

danvitale

Novice Member
Theres the regulation also that prohibits SD DVD upscaling out of Component.. but theres nothing stopping upscaling via VGA.
 

rover2002

Novice Member
danvitale said:
Theres the regulation also that prohibits SD DVD upscaling out of Component.. but theres nothing stopping upscaling via VGA.
Now i think about it i have read somewhere that the DVD does indeed upscale over VGA, not sure if it was here or another forum:D
 

richard plumb

Distinguished Member
danvitale said:
Theres the regulation also that prohibits SD DVD upscaling out of Component.. but theres nothing stopping upscaling via VGA.

yes, so we'll have the crazy situation where you can watch native HD movies in 1080i, but SD DVD stays limited to 480/576p. :rolleyes:
 

IdealDeek

Novice Member
I thought the comments about the visual differences between componant/vga & hdmi were interesting, claiming it's negligable & in some cases worse. I can't really tell any difference between SkyHD thru hdmi & movie trailers via vga from the 360 but thought that was just me!
My TV only has x1 hdmi anyway & those multi adaptors seem expensive. Has HDCP been shelved for now then?
 

richard plumb

Distinguished Member
IdealDeek said:
I thought the comments about the visual differences between componant/vga & hdmi were interesting, claiming it's negligable & in some cases worse. I can't really tell any difference between SkyHD thru hdmi & movie trailers via vga from the 360 but thought that was just me!
My TV only has x1 hdmi anyway & those multi adaptors seem expensive. Has HDCP been shelved for now then?
marketing spin to cover the fact that they don't have HDMI out. Component *is* fine, but their reasoning was a little suspect.



Didn't answer my questions though:

1) Will the HDDVD drive be region free?
2) Will a US HDDVD drive work on a UK Xbox 360 and let me play US HDDVDs?
3) Will the HDDVD drive play DVDs?
4) Would a US HDDVD drive let me play R1 DVDs on a UK machine? (so I effectively have a multiregion player)
5) Will you be supporting all the advanced audio codecs sent over optical out?
 

Rasczak

Distinguished Member
Did I read correctly that the Xbox 360 HD DVD drive connects via a simple USB connection? If so I wonder if it can be connected to a PC as well?
 

richard plumb

Distinguished Member
Rasczak said:
Did I read correctly that the Xbox 360 HD DVD drive connects via a simple USB connection? If so I wonder if it can be connected to a PC as well?

they've dodged that one. In theory yes, but then you'd need the software on the PC, whereas with the 360 it'll come via a dashboard update online.

I guess it could be done but it might depend on whether they are subsidising the drive to push 360s, or whether the deal with Toshiba means keeping away from PCs (eg get cheaper drives?)
 

Evil Engineer

Novice Member
If it's a standard PC drive in a plastic case then a few seconds of brute force and ignorance could provide you with a very cheap HD DVD drive for your computer. :)
 

BillBlank

Novice Member
Evil Engineer said:
If it's a standard PC drive in a plastic case then a few seconds of brute force and ignorance could provide you with a very cheap HD DVD drive for your computer. :)

I haven't seen such an apropriate username for ages :rotfl:

Just how many sets of club hammers do you own sir?
 
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Ajazz 87

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danvitale said:
Theres the regulation also that prohibits SD DVD upscaling out of Component.. but theres nothing stopping upscaling via VGA.
So a question to you then. If I play a DVD in my xbox 360, would it not be upscaled at all?

I did hear something once mentioning that DVD's are filmed in a higher resolution to what we see when using a DVD player. What is the resolution and would we receive that when playing through the xbox 360?
 

NackNack

Banned
Only using VGA will you get an upscaled picture through a 360.

Films are filmed at very high resolutions (something like 3000 x 2000), but are transfered to 720 x 576 for PAL DVDs.

Through VGA the highest we can get an upscaled picture to 1360 x 768.
 
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Ajazz 87

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NackNack said:
Only using VGA will you get an upscaled picture through a 360.

Films are filmed at very high resolutions (something like 3000 x 2000), but are transfered to 720 x 576 for PAL DVDs.

Through VGA the highest we can get an upscaled picture to 1360 x 768.
Aww so when using component, I will acheive 720x576 (native). What would it be when using a standard DVD player if you don't mind me asking?

If when using a VGA, will the image automaticly upscale to 1360x768?

Thanks
 

NackNack

Banned
Ajazz 87 said:
Aww so when using component, I will acheive 720x576 (native). What would it be when using a standard DVD player if you don't mind me asking?

If when using a VGA, will the image automaticly upscale to 1360x768?

Thanks
It upscales to whatever resolution you have set the VGA cable to output. :)

A standard DVD player will be 720 x 576 if it doesn't upscale or 720p if it does (1280 x 720). I think some upscale to 1080i too (1920 x 1080).
 

Rasczak

Distinguished Member
According to this thread Xbox magazine is showing pictures of a new Xbox 360 with an HDMI connection on the back. I wonder if this could mean an integrated HDMI/HD DVD Xbox 360 is inbound?
 

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