Have Disney lost the plot..

Discussion in '4K Ultra HD Blu-rays' started by Obiit, Jun 23, 2018.


    1. Obiit

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      or just trying it on!? As the norm now seems to be that Atmos/DTS:X soundtracks are on 4K i'm now having to buy them (dispite having a 1080p TV).

      What i don't get is Disney`s pricing structure

      Black Panther - DVD £10 Bluray £15 4K £27
      Darkest Hour - DVD £10 Bluray £15 4K £20

      A whole £7 dearer than everybody else and the soundtracks are underwhelming.

      Or am i being thick and missing something?
       
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      You haven't lost the plot, and I have made a promise to myself not purchase another Disney 4k disc until they address their immersive audio shortcomings.
       
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      Especially after the complete disaster that is The Last Jedi disc.

      Doesn’t work on the majority of players and the sound is really poor to boot.
       
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      I think they alway been a bit like that on pricing,when it comes to new media,i seem to remember the same with VHS,LD,& DVD,after a while their prices do come down to about the same as the rest :)
       
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      Fine on my Xbox X and on my Sony X800.

      The sound isn't poor as such but it does lack oomph. Like they capped it off at a certain level. I certainly have to turn the amp up more than normal on this one.
       
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      The sound is poor on most recent titles. Turning it way way up makes it less worse, but not good unfortunately.
       
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      Disney lost the plot concerning home video releases long ago.
      They can't even be bothered to do decent releases for their catalogue titles on Bluray.
      Unfortunately, owning Marvel and Star Wars means they can afford to churn out 2 hours of CGI drivel on a regular basis that the masses lap up and don't have to bother with their own heritage anymore.

      The few genuine catalogue releases that do exist are extras free and available only in the US from a mail order club.
      That we don't have worldwide releases for titles like 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea , The Black Hole and many more live action titles is madness.
      Even their classic animation releases are so processed they don't even look like film anymore. But while they can get away with reissuing the same titles repeatedly that sell based on a different slipcover each time there will be no progress
       
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      How much longer will we see DVD's being produced? Let's do away with them, knock bluray down to DVD prices.
       
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      Not just Disney. Sony and Fox don't feature Atmos on the 1080p Blu-rays as well. Sony put a lossy DD track on Blade Runner 2049 3D Blu-ray.

      Disney are at least offering 7.1 DTS HD MA consistently. Doesn't mean I am not prasing them as they are screwing their recent home AV offering big time but at least they have been .consistent with whatever approach they have been taking (IMAX on 3D, DTS HD 7.1 on 3D/2D and Atmos and OAR on BD and 4K).
       
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      Why would the studios do that?

      They sell more DVD's than they do Blu-ray or UHD.
       
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      Doesn’t work properly on my X One S. Haven’t tried it recently though so it may have been sorted?
       
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      Don’t think they’re doing a good job at the moment. Saw the other day they’re not even releasing A Wrinkle In Time in UHD in the U.K.
       
    13. Obiit

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      Yep they are messing things up good style. I will be getting disneys 4k releases in sales unless they come down in price.........
       
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      Doesn’t seem to be getting a Blu-ray release either, only DVD.
       
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      Bizarre. I know it woefully underperformed here, but you’d think they’d see it as an opportunity to recoup. Hey, they’d know better than I would.:rotfl:
       
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      You can get Black Panther 4K for £22 at Zoom or for under £20 at ebay. Prices are coming down but slowly. The situation with 4K is 100x better than 3D and initial stages of 1080p Blu-rays. The main issue with Disney is lackluster 4K UHD offering mainly outside Americas and their AV quality on select releases.
       
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      FYI those who pre-ordered Black Panther from Amazon UK at about £27 actually only paid £25 after an automatic refund due to the price going down to that level before it was released.

      I wondered whether some studios might price some discs higher and that might justify bringing them out on discs so soon after the cinema.

      Personally, I would pay quite a lot to get say Avengers Infinity War in UHD next week, while it is still (just about) at the cinema...
       
    18. Indiana Jones

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      Hope very few ordered at that price from Amazon considering it was £22.50 from Zoom and delivered 3 days early.
       
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      Thanks. Do Zoom often deliver early?
       
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      Pretty much always.
       
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      DVD's won't ever be done away with because it would mean the majority of the public would not be able to buy films on disc anymore without buying a new player.
      Not forgetting a huge amount of material won't benefit from any increase in quality by going to Bluray.
      And anyone with a reasonable memory knows that Blurays are very reasonably priced and on most occasions cost peanuts for what you actually get.
      And if you want cheaper titles then you only need to wait a few months for the inevitable discounts
       
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      When amazon sales rank number 1-10 is made up of DVD don’t think they will go away anytime soon . Even in the US where Blu Ray dominates if its a kid title like Moana DVD our sells Blu Ray 2-1 if not more .

      Disney see it as a cash cow you only have to got to Disney land on Florida and see them charging $40 for a Blu Ray catalogue title .
       
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      I don’t think Disney have lost the plot just the gauge of what made their Blu Rays sound better than any other .

      I bet they have paid a lot of money on a formula for 4k atmos mastering and somewhere along the line until it’s recouped costs they can’t be bothered to re invest in that process .

      Let’s hope and be optimistic that Avengers is the first disc they pumped the sonics back in atmos track as infinity war is going to sell on Star Wars levels looking at Pre order data online .
       
    24. mozza54

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      4k Blu rays in general are still a bit steep in terms of price imo, mind its like any new media, it'll eventually level out in terms of price. I remember paying £20 for DVD's back in the day!

      Generally Disney are a bit poor on deals for physical disks, sure you see the odd promo for their films (ie by one get one free) but the film will be at the top end of the RRP so you dont save.

      Digital releases are no better, they hardly ever get put on sale. Ive been after a copy of Tron Legacy for ages and not once have I seen it drop under £13.99 on Amazon.
       
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      Tron Legacy on Bluray is £6.99 and the 3D version isn't much dearer. Surely you're not looking for a download over a Bluray?
      The download will be inferior video, inferior sound and availability is not guaranteed for the future and with the Bluray you don't need a working internet connection to watch it.
       
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      You can get Tron Legacy 3D Blu-ray easily for under 8 at eBay.
       
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      Think he only wants a digital copy.
       
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      That's weird as the physical media costs less.
       
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      Looks like a pattern, they haven't released Pirates 5 or any of the Pixar titles (Coco, Cars, Incredibles) over here either. In all honesty I think we're lucky they're releasing any UHDs over here at all, it seems like Marvel and Lucasfilm are pushing for them over here (just as they kept 3D Blu-ray releases going outside the US) but anything from Pixar or Disney (as in, made & produced by Disney) on UHD is an automatic fail outside of the US.

      Disney really don't give a Castlemaine XXXX for physical media in general, they keep it going on DVD because that still sells in vast amounts but anything higher than that they just don't put the effort in, drip-feeding all these films from the "vault" to the fans on Blu-ray who seem to gratefully lap them up, along with re-releases in new slips that people go gaga for, as thegeminiman, oops, 'Sam Casey', pointed out. And yet people, especially in the US forums, still seem to worship at their feet. Bizarre.
       
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      Yep, was on about digital copies. I don't really bother with physical discs (haven't for a long time) as they just get in the way.
       

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