Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by PC Nut, Mar 26, 2004.
Do you own one, would you by another Please vote
Just testing new poll
I was going to buy one but a yamaha won my heart and my pocket
Will probably stick with HK, loads of power and excellent build quality.
Keep up the voting and dont forget the clocks tonight! is back or forward? i can never remember..
Where is the don't own one, don't want to option?
I think your profile says it all.
(The opinions expressed herein are not necessarily those of AV Forums, not necessarily mine, and probably not necessary.)
I agree with Jeff, that option is need. The poll is somewhat biased without it.
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Thanks PC Nut I have never demoed a HK, even though I've been told good things about them. The reasons being that I find most of them ugly and also on the pricey side, especially compared to the US.
Not a problem Daneel. I Agree they are expensive but like yourself i have heard good things also, but talked to a friend who has an early model that just does dolby surround. And he had not rated it that well compared to other brands.
Well i suggest you demo one then! some HK amps are built in the UK which might be one reason they might be a bit pricier...
They are pricier in two way. First spec for spec, the competing manufacturers seems to offer more (this was a year ago i looked, it may have changed) and second if you look at price in the US vs price here we seem to be paying through the nose, more so than for other manufactuers.
Doubtfull mate unless you are only looking at wattage! re read the specs and compare what they measured at, like the THD and current also the load and the inclusion of Logic 7 is well worth a bit extra.
Logic 7 is loads better than prologic 11 i would find it hard to be without it now ive heard it which is another good reason to buy H/K imo.
If you want bells and whistles dont buy HK.
HK dont have thousands of DSP Surround modes but they ooze quality.
I second gonzo and hornydragon, you just have to demo for yourself.
I personally care more about performance than looks for HC and Hi Fi, other wise I would have stuck with my old AIWA system, which I was very happy with.
i wouldn't even have considered a HC receiver or processor for that matter.
We are always paying more for most things here anyway.
The build quality is exceptional
I also have heard good things about them considering there sound. If I didn't consider them so unattractive I would defiently consider them instead of arcam (which I currently have most of).
The old range were unattractive, but the new range looks good IMHO.
regards to hifi fashion
In the olden days black was the only choice
Then we went through the silver phase
Now black is starting to come back in because silver is too common....
Shinny black seems to be the latest fashion now
HK have shinny black with a touch of silver a design I believe that looks very elegant and will stay in for a long while.......
Wonder how they would look if Versace, Armani & Gucci made amps
maybe they should make amps with removable fascias that way we could change the look every couple of months
Roksan make stereo amps with interchangeable covers, I suppose you could match them to your mood, music or decor!
I'd have to agree that the latest HK receivers look better than ever - as for features - remember that the HK power ratings are usually very nominal, as they generally have loads of current and proper power supplies.
Also for music their Logic 7 system has the Lexicon pedigree behind it which is no bad thing.
As far as pricing is concerned, HK is the rare case where an American product isn't ridiculously over-priced in this country.
The main reason for this is that they have models developed for the European market (which are generally very high quality - more so than some of the American models).
Take a look at the range thats just been developed - new style , much better remote and great sounding.
PS I don't work for HK just like the way they have developed the latest products, which IMHO compare favourably with a lot of their competitors.
Tell me where I can get a HK for not 'a ridiculous' price?
I suggest to you that double the US price is ridiculous.
Sorry, but I think you have your facts wrong!
> Wonder how they would look if Versace, Armani & Gucci made amps
much like my red sim2 I would expect
What I was saying is that where a lot of American companies (M&K for example) simply sell in this country on a pound for dollar basis, Harman Kardon do not.
Take the new AVR630 Receiver - the US MSRP is $1,299.00
whereas the UK MSRP is £999.95
I never said that the US prices weren't cheaper - it is well known that UK prices are generally more - take any of the mainstream manufacturers such as Denon, Yamaha, Onkyo, Marantz - all better priced in the States.
However another thing to note is that the US HK models and the UK ones have different power supplies and sometimes different video circuitry thus making them different specification.
Saying this HK do generally keep the useful features such as IR in on the back of the receiver (ideal if you are using an RF remote)
as opposed to Yamaha who dropped this facility 'especially' for the European model of the RXV2400.
I bought a HK DVD2550 DVD player a little while back. I'm so pleased with it looks included. I know some people don't like the look but it looks really well in the black/silver, especial against my Kef eggs and Sub also black/silver. I will definately audition their amps when the time comes. I'd love a matching amp with bags of quality power. My current AV amp is a Yam and whilst very good, I don't use any of the endless DSP options, they are a waste of time. I'd rather they spent the money on out and out quality. From what I've read, this more the ethos of HK.
Several US members has reported that H/K x30 series has 3sec delayed audio drop out when switching sound source. H/K will provide an upgrade later this year which should resolve the dropout issue as well as introducing DPLIIx and other features (via RS232C port), and finally 7300 should arrive soon - thread1 & thread2
As good as HK are I think they are bad electrical engineers. There is no excuse for amps running at 1kilowatt or 118watts in standby. It's just bad design. The fans come on almost immediately whereas the rep told me you have to run them for a while. The drop out issue is a bad as any. Sort yourselves out HK because the sound quality is good.
when idle not in standby
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