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  1. Bladey

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    I'm running out of space on my mac, not sure what to do might just get a external Hardrive any thoughts?
     
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    Either delete stuff or buy an external.
     
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    Well I new that already to be honest mate. Lol what I'm asking really is what's the best externals. For mac? Thanks
     
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    Just answering the very vague question that you asked. Now we know what your trying to ask we can give better answers. ;-)

    What version iMac are you using it on? What ports do you have? What size are you after?

    Personally I always go for Western Digital. Their range is massive and their very reliable. Elements drives for portability and lack of power supply needed. MyBook range for desktop use in larger capacities.

    I have the ThunderBolt Duo and it rocks if you have TB onboard your Mac.
     
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    Macs generally work with any external drive as long as the drive and its enclosure have an appropriate interface with which to connect it to your Mac. USB and Firewire are the most commonly used interfaces with Mac computers, but Thunderbolt is also of consideration if using a newer Mac. If you've an older Mac that lacks a THunderbolt port or budget restricts your purchase then look at external drives with Firewire ports (although Firewire equipped drives do cost more than USB equipped drives). Thunderbolt is faster than Firewire, but Firewire 800 is generally faster than USB 2. I'd not pay extra for eSata seeing as eSata ports are not present on Macs.

    Western Digital are as prone to failure as any other manufacturer so do not limit your choice to drives manufactured by WD. LaCie are reliable and use other manufacturers drive mechanisms, but are expensive and quite noisy so ignore any claims you see of them being silent. If noise is of importance then WD and Iomega perform well and manufacture many drives that function without fans.
     
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    You don't say what Mac it is. That makes the biggest difference to me. If it's an iMac, then an external is fine - it just sits on the desk with the iMac being inconspicuous. But if you have a MacBook, an external drive is a pain, as it needs to be tethered to the Mac, going wherever the Mac does, be it lap, desk, garden, out of the house, etc. So in that case, I'd pull out the internal drive, clone it to a new, bigger drive, and stick that in the Mac (and with the original drive, I'd sling it in a 2.5" external caddy, that doesn't need separate power, and keep it for back ups/safe storage of photos or whatever you'd be devastated to lose...
     
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    Or maybe airport extreme?use an external drive plugged into that over the network maybe?
    Im using a WD blue 500gb,only 5.400rpm,but very quiet.it was in my ps3,then got a caddy from Amazon,£5,i use it for my films for Plex server.works great,no problems.
    but as someone said,hanging out the side of my MBP,is a pain,hence i want airport extreme....
     
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    I wasn't suggesting That other drives aren't reliable, just stating that I always buy WD and have had great reliability over the years. I won't buy anything else now.

    Had a LaCie media drive in my quest for HD Audio streaming before I got my ATV. Won't get into its faults as a media player, but as a hard drive it was very loud indeed, just as Dante suggests.
     
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    Use grandperspective to see what is taking up the space first, then just get any external harddrive you fancy...
     
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    Sorry guys it's the latest iMac running the latest OS.
     
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    It's films/tv shows And ones I want to keep to be honest.
     
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    Films and video content does require large chunks of HD space and it is usually best practice to keep such content on external drives.

    One tip that may be useful to you when looking at an external drive is to buy one that is at least double the size you actually need right now.

    Your current iMac can use USB, Firewire and Thunderbolt equipped external drives.
     
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    Films and video content belong on a NAS then every device in the house can access it.
     
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    You do not need a NAS in order to provide access to other devices throughout your home. You can distribute the media over a LAN via DLNA without any need for a NAS.
     
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    Yup. And it's not strictly true that every device in the house can access the NAS either. ;-)
     
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    Blimey, tough crowd in here...If you want to be able to switch off your computer and still access multi-media content through a-another device a NAS is very handy..
     
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    Really all I need it for is to convert films from IVI to iTunes so WD then is it?
     
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    You'll be fine will a basic external HD connected directly to your iMac ;)

    Is the WD drive (ThunderBolt Duo) mentioned earlier the one you like the look of?

    Here's a review:
    Western Digital My Book Thunderbolt Duo 4TB review | from TechRadar's expert reviews of Disk drives (hdd & ssd)

    The 4TB configuration will cost you about £370:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0074C5Y...ive=22206&creativeASIN=B0074C5YL2onfiguration will cost you about £370:
     
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    Yeah thats great thanks for your help but 4TB is to much do they do a smaller model?
     
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    Are you bothered about the Thunderbolt connection or will you be happy with Firewire and USB connectivity? What size were you thinking of?
     
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    I would like it but not really required.. I was thinking 1TB
     
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    I'd probably suggest you look at getting a 2TB Firewire 800 equiped external drive. The price difference between a 1TB and 2TB drive isn't that significant and there's no advantage gained by buying the smaller option.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Dig...1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1343590751&sr=1-2

    In fact the 3TB option isn't all that more expensive than the 2TB option:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Dig...1_8?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1343590751&sr=1-8

    Here's the 1TB if still interested:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Dig...1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1343590979&sr=1-1
     
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    An advantage of a 1TB drive is that you can get buspowered versions, saves on the extra power sockets to find all the time...
     
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    4TB is the smallest WD TB drive. It's 2x 2TB, hence the Duo part of the name. You'll be surprised at how much you use once you get into BluRay quality Movies stored on there. 1TB won't last long at all.

    I have the 4TB model as got it for £280 including postage! Wanted the 8TB version as moved from an 8TB NAS that was almost full. Decided that a bargain was not to be missed and grabbed it. Had a cull of stuff and made the switch. It's a lot faster than the NAS ever was.

    If you don't want to jump to that size yet, then grab a FW800 model, as suggested above, and get a single drive version. Personally, I think you should consider a 2TB model if you can find one in your price range as 1TB fills up fast and you will have to spend again then. ;-)
     
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    Maybe useful if you've a laptop, but not really needed with a Desktop iMac ;)
     
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    I've just bought 2 of those WD studio drives with the metal enclosures, they look great sat next to an iMac and so far have been very quiet and not too hot despite a 4 hour time machine backup to one of them, I went for the 2tb ones as like dante01 said, the price difference is insignificant.

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    Low power consumption, lack of wires, what is not too like :)
     
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    You'll find that the majority of bus powered drives use slower 5400rpm 2.5" mechanisms because of the lesser power required to run them. The bus powered drives are more associated with 2.5" 5400rpm drive mechanisms than the faster and larger 7200rpm 3.5" mechanisms found in desktop external drives.

    You also have some reliability issues in relation to Macs and USB bus powered drives. Macs do not supply the same power as many PC USB interfaces supply. This doesn't apply to Firewire bus powered drives though.

    Even the Firewire option is compromised in that you'd not be able to daisy chain if reliant on the bus for power.
     
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    What? You mean Macs provide more power than most PCs across their USB I hope. As those are the facts.

    Anyway don't want get it derailed for the OP. merely highlighting there are choices. Sustained 5400rpm drives are plenty fast enough for streaming hd footage from as well.
     
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    No. Apple do not provide better power via USB, they supply Up to 500 mA via their USB 2 ports.


    The newer USB 3 equiped Macs supply 900 mA via their USB ports.


    Macs can supply 8 watts of power via Firewire.
     

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