Hands on with the JVC HD100 - AV Forums Exclusive

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  1. Neil Davidson

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    Hi Everyone,

    I spent an enjoyable day at JVC today having a detailed look at the new HD100 projector, the follow up to forum fave the HD1.

    Look out for a Podcast special with my thoughts and a video shot on the JVC HD camcorder before the end of the week.

    Overall I was very impressed so if anyone has questions then please post here!
     
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    What did you think of the 100s base black level, any better than the 1 or is the 30000/1 contrast achieved at the top end ?
     
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    ooh super, definitely looking forward to hearing your views on this one. I'm in the market for an HD1, but could be persuaded upwards :D. As 008 says, that contrast number is the big one we'd all like to know about, although I'm also interested in something more mundane...the fan noise. Cheers.
     
  4. Neil Davidson

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    The increased is certainly in the base black level rather than the top end (you'd need a welders mask to handle the light if it was at the top end!).

    We need to put it in perspective though - The small amount of light that leaked around the door frame and a small green LED in the light were certainly enough to drop the contrast to maybe 2000:1 on/off. That is still a massive contrast but much more typical of reality.

    As with the previous model, ANSI contrast is much lower, the black noticeably lightens on ANSI contrast patterns. Will need to wait and see what the final measurements are but this is still an area where DLP is king.
     
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    Fan noise in low light mode was negligible from my seating position about 2m away from the projector. We will need to wait for measurement but this is likely a good bit below 30dB.

    In high lamp mode the fans really kiked in and the noise was much more intrusive. In this mode I would have to suggest that the PJ be isolated in a box or better still (and true for all projectors not just the HD100) in it's own room.

    The JVC demo room has a 120" Stewart Studiotek 130 (by the looks of things) and this was just bright enough in low lamp mode. High lamp mode didn't bring enough extra light to make me want to keep at that mode so during the demo I switched back to low.
     
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    Coming from CRT thats excellent news. Nearly time to sell my HD1 methinks :D
     
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    How much is it going to be?
     
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    Less than £5.5k SRP :)
     
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    Great report Neil, thanks. The only concern seems to be the overblown reds...but it sounded like this shouldn't be a deal-breaker. Is that your feeling? Cheers.
     
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    Is it £2.2k better than the HD1?

    That's quite a gap to bridge....
     
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    Is it £5.5k or "less than" ? Also the MSRP of the HD1 is about £4.5K so be careful comparing MSRP with street pricing.

    AVI
     
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    I would advise any body considering this projector to get a demo in advance to determine if this will be a deal breaker for them.

    I am used to a more accurate image and so I found it quite distracting however I know plenty of people who would wonder what I was talking about if I complained to them about over saturated primaries!!!

    In all other respects performance was exceptional for a product at this pricepoint.
     
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    That really depends on how much importance you place on the motorised lens zoom and shift and built in constant height anamorphic stretch mode.

    The black levels are also a bit better but I would be surprised if too many people got real benefits from this once installed in room.
     
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    Final pricing has not been confirmed hence I need to remain a bit vague on that for the time being. I think it will be less than £5.5k MSRP but that may change by the time it hits the street.
     
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    Hey guys,

    let´s start a powerbuy for the HD100 :D
    Or does anybody know a cheap source anywhere in Europe for JVC projectors?

    Cheers,
    Synthauri
     
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    Interesting to see that the official release calls the HD100.

    ' Premium version of the popular DLA-HD1 for more vivid high definition imaging '

    I initially thought it was being marketed as a model up from the HD-1 rather than just an HD-1 with a few extra bells and whilstles.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but this now seems to fit in better with the suggested JVC model in development aimed more at the VW200 price point and also a true successor to the HD-1 due early next year.

    I would therefore expect the HD-2 to come in early next year, with the same panels as the HD-100, but minus the v-stretch and power focus,zoom. Just to speculate it will probably also have the same 0.1 pixel shift covergence capability of the VW60.

    Now if that beast is only 3/4 months away, it just might be worth waiting for instead.
     
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    There will always be something bigger/better round the corner though....you could post the same thought regarding pretty much any piece of technology. ;)
     
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    true, but the earlier you buy something in its life cycle the longer you have to wait till you feel shafted :thumbsup:
     
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    Well I'll put my logic on the point....

    Technology will always progress, that's a given, however the HD1 is hardly a bad projector. For £2900 (a whole heap lower than it's original RRP) it's a proverbial bargain for the performance it gives.
     
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    sorry that was ment a bit tongue in cheek, but naturally people will feel jilted if they pay a high price on something when a new much better model comes out a year later for half the price (not that that has happened in this case but it usually does)
     
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    It looks as if some the of capabilities of the Gennum processor are being opened up for user tweaking, in particular full gamma control. In addition to the new colour filters, this may address some of the niggles with the original HD1.
     
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    New Colour Filters?
     
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    It's in the press release.
     
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    The press release has this:

    http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/tech_desc.jsp?model_id=MDL101733&feature_id=02

    It's been said the gamut is even wider than the HD1 so this isn't a step in the right direction if colour accuracy is something you're picky about IMHO. You'll need an external CMS to get the primaries where they should be. Pity.

    Gary
     

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