Half Life 2: Episode 2

Knyght_byte

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Dont launch steam a lot these days since i stopped clanning in CS:S, loaded it up the other day after a long Mod & Post session here...heh. Realised they had released more media on the upcoming episode. Namely a second trailer (far as i can tell the first trailer is the one at the end of Episode 1 which hooked me immediately!) and 5 gameplay examples...which unlike most game footage are not a low res blurry load of rubbish!..lol.

What can i say, ok, graphically HL2 is falling behind the latest stuff, but its still more than good enough to impress at times. But the gameplay and storyline is just exploding! It looks fantastic, I cant begin to imagine everything that you will get to do, I just hope that EP2 is 150% as long as EP1 which I enjoyed very much but found a little short. Namely good VFM due to its pace, a very well done job indeed there. They kept you moving a lot, with the occasional few moments to stop and take your time.

Some of the things it looks like will happen in EP2 though are making me dribble...lol. Normally i would much prefer an environment like HL1 to HL2:EP2, HL2 itself was a bit of a mix of both in a way, claustrophobic indoor and expansive outdoor. EP2 however seems to be going for cluttered outdoor, ie forested land. Open enough for danger to lurk anywhere, but enough cover to creep around. Should be interesting, I do hope they have an indoory section as well though, nothing more fun than lobbing grenades in to rooms then charging in like a nutjob with the LMB constantly depressed...lol

I'm guessing there is still going to be an EP3. Personally I'd rather see EP2 be the last of HL2, then wait 3 years for a HL3 to come out. Upgraded Source engine, but same basic control interface. With Valve making it a massive epic game to finish things off.

After Legend Of Zelda, Half Life is probably the longest game I have ever played (outside of obvious really long games like Civ2 on the largest map setting..lol) that kept me interested throughout the entire game. Opposing forces was a welcome add on that used a (i'm guessing) unique perspective of the same story told from another angle, it was obviously shorter, but much fun and highly replayable. Then BlueShift, possibly a money spinner to get funds for HL2? Still very enjoyable, a third perspective on the Black Mesa goings on, it was also short, but still employed some interesting ideas and only suffered as usual with a slightly weak ending that seems the preserve of first person shooter games. Half Life 2 was astounding in its interface, I'm sure most who read this will remember playing with tin cans and the guard soon as you got off the train, throw stuff at him, run away with him chasing for a bit, wait till he returns to his post, throw something else at him, etc....hehe. It's storyline was not quite as long as Half Life, but obviously more varied, namely because it had more work to do combining a mix of subtle and not so subtle plot devices. However i feel they worked very well for the most part, but I did find a few weak areas of the game that i feel were possibly added just to make it longer.

Half Life for me was a 9.9/10 game, Half Life 2 was more a 8.5/10 game, namely because it was treading a path beaten flat by Half Life, however 8.5 is not bad, most games I have played in my life I would not rate above 6/10. Episode 1 suffered for me due to its shortness, but was otherwise a very useful vehicle in getting Gordon to the more meaty looking Episode 2. I'd probably put it around 7.8/10 when comparing to the full blown brethern, or 8.4 compared to its add on counterparts from the first game (OpFor 8.7, BlueShift 6.9....these scores based on the fact they are add ons, not a score to compare to the main games). Judging by the movies i've seen on Steam, EP2 could be heading for a 9.5 as an add on, or possibly as high as 8.5 against its full size parent.....time will tell ;)

So who else here is looking forward to EP2? If you havnt seen the vids available on Steam, launch it and watch them please! and tell me you are thinking 'What Wii?' :devil:

Valve, possibly the only game designer outside Nintendo that looks to give people the real gameplay experience ;)
 

Tejstar

Distinguished Member
Well I am looking forward to it - but I really need to finish HL2 before I get excited about this (and HL Ep 1)!
 

HMHB

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I still haven't really started HL2 and I've had probably 6 months now ! I suppose I am too impatient and want to start shooting things from the off but I can't seem to find a weapon and really don't like the slow start of this. Any tips ?
 

Joe Pineapples

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I suppose I am too impatient and want to start shooting things from the off but I can't seem to find a weapon and really don't like the slow start of this. Any tips ?
Maybe its just not your type of game. With the rich attention to detail, introduction of characters, and general involving start of the game, i never reeally thought about fighting/shooting etc, until the time came to do it, which isnt actually very long into it btw. Just give it time, or play something like 'Prey' instead. Those would be my tips.
 

HMHB

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I need to give it time I think and get into a thinking frame of mind. Maybe a few days over the Christmas break will see me adicted :thumbsup:
 

Knyght_byte

Novice Member
I think thats the problem with most generic FPS games, they give you guns from the off...so when you dont have a gun at the start you feel a little awkward and wonder whats the point.....

which to my mind was what made the first game, Half Life so amazing.....wandering around, exploring the surroundings, once the 'incident' happened you was walking around thinking 'omg what do i do if something attacks me, i have no weapon??'.....

and they took that attitude to the second game......and it worked to my mind, meant you took a few minutes to wander around and get used to the new interface if you were an oldtimer to the HL universe......i guess newtimers might think *yawn* no shooting with big aliens immediately...whats the point?......you wait....heh.....oh boy you wait....once bad guys start happening, there are times you are just going to wish they stopped...lol.....i've seldom played a game where you honestly feel harassed......you MUST get somewhere safe type feeling ;)

If Valve did do the unthinkable tho and stamped on PC gamers fingers by going 360 or PS3 with EP2 first, i would be sooooooo, well, i'm a Mod so not going to swear, just choose your 10 best expletives from a couple languages and you'll get where i'm going...lol

Something tells me that wont happen tho...heh....Steam is becoming far too big for them to move to consoleland........after The Sims a few MMORPGS, the Half Life franchise is one of the most bought games worldwide.....also one of the most hacked too for CS accounts...lol

anyhow.....anyone else on here played everything so far and seen the EP2 movies? or the Portal one....damn that looks fun...lol
 

Joe Pineapples

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anyhow.....anyone else on here played everything so far and seen the EP2 movies?
been with the HL saga since the first one, and avoided any ep2 clips, mainly due to the probable play time of the actual game. Just a shame they didnt get it out in time for christmas.
 

Tejstar

Distinguished Member
Well I got to the bit just after being on the hover boat for ages, I;ve just got hold of the gravity gun and can use it to fire razer discs at the crab head things! Have I got much left?
 

andyfoz

Novice Member
the hover boat bit at the beginning seem o go on for abou 3 weeks, which is what stopped me playing it

i new it was a god game so i persued it a few months later, and still think that boat bit was a no no.

i tink im near the end now and can say its an extremely good game! and it comes with couter strike and death match! bonus!
 

Knyght_byte

Novice Member
OK you've talked me into it :D
good good :D

seriously, once things get going its a fun ride......most games only try and get you feeling fear......Valve do everything...fear, terror, outright poo your pants i'm in trouble, comedy, sympathy, etc.....

have to say, head crab moments are brilliant...heh..you know they dont harm you much, yet you still get shocks when they screech and start jumping...lol..especially the variants ;)
 

Knyght_byte

Novice Member
been with the HL saga since the first one, and avoided any ep2 clips, mainly due to the probable play time of the actual game. Just a shame they didnt get it out in time for christmas.
well, going by the stuff the EP2 clips show you, it may well be a bit longer than EP1......i think its supposed to be more freeform.....which will be interesting to see how well Valve handle the transition....i remember a few people once saying to me they thought Half Life 1/2 were a little linear....but that was (at least with Half Life anyhow) the idea......you were a rat in a maze, you keep going forward till you cant go anymore, if you cant, you double back and try something else.....you cant just leap over the walls of the maze and do what you want......that would have taken away the claustrophobic feeling that the original game wanted you to feel..heh...i bet most who played it (and allow themselves to be immersed rather than concentrate on shiny stuff) felt soooooo happy in the moments you were allowed to clamber out in the sunshine above Black Mesa facility.....then felt the pressure on you as had to go back inside again....heh

would have loved them to get it out in time for xmas....get the feeling it may even have been delayed due to the PS3/Wii launches....lets face it, Valve are not going to go overboard on advertising, wouldnt look good on the account books if the first month or so showed very few sales...lol......

still, with a game like this i am honestly quite happy to be patient....and with Steam OCD system, NO WAITING OR PAYING RIDICULOUS EBAY PRICES...HAHAHA TAKE THAT CONSOLELAND!......erm...ahem..sorry *puts his mod hat back on properly*.....heh...
 

Knyght_byte

Novice Member
the hover boat bit at the beginning seem o go on for abou 3 weeks, which is what stopped me playing it

i new it was a god game so i persued it a few months later, and still think that boat bit was a no no.

i tink im near the end now and can say its an extremely good game! and it comes with couter strike and death match! bonus!
the hover boat bit does go on a little.....for me its a toss up as to which i enjoyed less, the hover boat or the buggy......both had their uses in giving the game a more expansive nationwide feel if you like......but felt both could have been implemented a little better.....

still cant decide which was my favourite bit of HL2.....there were a few sections i enjoyed a bit more than others, but i liked most sections so much....lol.....take time tho like you would with zelda to enjoy some of the little moments, like when other people are around you and talking, fiddle with things etc....you'll get a lot more out of the game when you realise how much of the environment can be played with....heh......(tyre swings for example...lol)

anyhow, time to watch Bones, then finish HL2 off again.....on the final chapter......might start up EP1 again tonight as well.....:D
 

Tejstar

Distinguished Member
if you've only just got the gravity gun, theres still plenty to go. All this HL2 talk is making me want to play it through again :D
Okay cool - will have to get have a go at this again over xmas (if I can tear myself away from the Wii, Gears of War or Guitar Hero II!
 

TJNewton

Novice Member
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Valve, possibly the only game designer outside Nintendo that looks to give people the real gameplay experience ;)

Great posting couldn't agree with your final sentence more, I'm also a huge Half Life fan hooked from the very start and eagerly awaiting HL EP2. :thumbsup:
 

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