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H&B HL-3200B 32in LCD HDTV - Any good ?

Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs' started by twin_decks, Mar 23, 2005.

  1. twin_decks

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    :hiya:

    I'm looking for a 32in LCD TV at around £1000. You get what you pay for but how does this H&B TV compare ? I can't see any reference to it in this forum, is this because it's new or just not worth a mention ?

    For reference its the
    H & B HL-3200B 32" HDTV LCD TV
    from EBUYER at about £950.

    I'm wondering if it is a rebranded panel (as I've never heard of H&B)

    Spec is good though - It includes HDTV (DVI-HDCP) and twin tuners.

    Would love to hear a view from a guru ...
     
  2. rudy

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    Don't get burnt. Unless you can see before buying, give it a miss mate
     
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    Actually, it sounds OK. I suspect that it is just another of the increasing number of budget Chinese (most likely) imports that have decent connectivity, are HD Ready and produce a decent enough picture.

    It'll be no star performer, but will be decent value for money.

    Make sure you have a good warranty.

    Jimmy
     
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    Product page on H&B website here.

    (doesn't seem to tell you any more than eBuyer - but if you want a close up of the DVI socket then have a look! It does show a close up of the remote and surround finish too though).

    No mention of 576p! Which would be a huge omission in the UK market - wouldn't it?

    A post elsewhere on the forum suggests this is the same as the Relisys RLT3200.
     
  5. Damian1978

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    Its a rebadged Relisys RLT3200 and great value for the money. It supports 480i/p, 576i/p, 720p and 1080i via the two component inputs and 480p/576, 720p and 1080i at 50/60hz via the HDCP compliant DVI input.

    I have the Relisys and I am pretty chuffed! :D
     
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    Damian - thanks for confirming the HD support. You mention that both 50Hz and 60Hz are available on DVI - does component support both as well?

    I've just looked at both websites and the brightness and contrast figures are different:

    HL-3200B (550 cd/m² & 600:1) http://www.hb-direct.com/EN/P_60_5.html
    RLT3200 (500 cd/m² & 500:1) http://www.relisys.co.uk/

    Wouldn't that mean they're not the same screen?
     
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    If you are unsure have a look at the Video7 on eBuyer coz at least there are threads about it here and it seems to be a really good set at the same money as this one. It also doesnt have the speakers on the sides so it is a lot smaller too....If size is of an issue?
     
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    The speakers are detachable....

    Actually, Damian indicated that it is a rebadged Relisys, but, from past experience Relisys, are the kings of rebadging themselves.

    This is a general purpose, mass produced set which is generally available, in slightly different guises, to anybody who cares to pay to have their badge, and some trim, stuck on.

    Nothing wrong with that though, as long as it is a decent product, which from most accounts, it seems to be.

    Jimmy
     
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    One glaring omission from the specs. though, the panels response time, no mention on the website.
     
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    Am I correct in saying over the video7 it has:

    Slightly bigger screen (True 32")
    Brighter
    Dolby Digital speakers
    1 more component input (both being YpBPr)
    Dual Pal tuners

    If we can find out the response time, this looks like a good buy to me. Only £50 more then the Video7 as well.
     
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    Don't forget HDCP!

    IGNORE -> I've seen the response time quoted as 18ms. Not gospel though.

    Edit: was thinking about Relisys model. :oops: Now seen the H&B may well be 25ms.
     
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    Well if its the same panel as the relisys, then that would ring true.

    The video7 has HDCp doesn't it?
     
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    No. Video7 had HDCP down in their speclist, Damian asked Video7 to confirm and they said it was an error - the DVI port is not HDCP compliant and they removed it from the speclist. See this post.

    I was all set to get the Video7 until I saw that!
     
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    Apologies - got mixed up between Relisys & H&B models!

    Relisys is 18ms - website confirms.

    H&B looks like 25ms (looking at some Euro shop websites from a Google search)
     
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    Will this be the new V7 beater? The only down side I can see is the panel seems to be last years generation, if it is 18ms, which I'd put money down that it is.

    Interestingly a recent Ebuyer cutomer has bought one of these and posted a quick review gave it 5 stars and said this,

    'bought this last week and am well impressed. I was gonna buy a 26 inch LG LCD but saw this for same price so took a chance on it being as good quality. Great decision as this is like a brushed aluminium finish that makes even the top line sony/lg/philips LCDs look like plastic tack.It also has removable speakers which do sound good but can also be taken off and a good 5.1 surround set used instead. Easy to set up, looks great and HDTV ready so future proof. If you are spending a grand on a TV, get this one!'
     
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    Didn't spot the previous comment about 25ms response time, if true this certainly won't be a V7 beater. IMHO.
     
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    Have fired off an email to H&B asking about the response time. Will let you know when I get a reply.
     
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    Both component inputs accept 50/60hz signals.


    :thumbsup:
     
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    Oh and having tried a Toshiba 32WL48 and Samsung LW32W33AX this is the only set I was more or less happy to live with too (although the Toshiba was pretty good).
     
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    Damian,

    Are you still confident this is a Re-badged Relisys such as yours?
     
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    Well the remotes look exactly the same. The connections are the same and the panel looks and has the same dimensions as mine.

    The only difference seems to be the stand.
     
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    Fingers crossed, because this is now top of my list for when I buy my screen next month. I'm just worried about the response time! This TV will be used for the majority of time as a PC monitor for games, and ghosting just won't cut it.
     
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    Hmmmm.....can't say theres absolutely no ghosting/smearing on the Scart inputs or tuner (its slight but not particularily annoying) and now I've upgraded to the Denon DVD3910, DVD's through the DVI input are totally smear free (but the player don't pass pluge.....but thats another problem and not the TV :( ).

    Stick to DVI and I think you'll be okay. Not sure why the response times and contrast ratios differ but manufacturers do measure these things differently.
     
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    Cheers Damian! :thumbsup:
     
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    Is the smearing/ghosting with RGB on the SCARTS?
     
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    Scart 2 is RGB enabled, scart 1 is composite only.

    Don't get me wrong. For the most part blur is totally un-noticable.
     
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    Thanks. I'm not really going to be using tuner or composite - so RGB quality is the only one I'm interested in. I know that at this price-point there are likely to be small PQ issues - I'm just keen to get as few as possible! The fact that you rated it over the Toshiba 32WL48 has got to carry some weight.
     
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    hi all

    got the lcd tv hl-3200b this week

    Tecnology has advanced so fast that you dont need big brand names

    On my progressive scan dvd player the picture is excellent

    tried the DVI input and it perfect picture never seen a picture that good before
     

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    Sounds good! Do you know the response time at all? Have you played any PC games on it? If so - any issues? If you've got time for a review - I bet there'd be quite a few interested in reading it! Thanks
     
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    hi vurthed
    I have not really got a lot of games to play on it but i have tried 1 or 2 and they seem to have a good quality picture, but i do not know the respond time.
     

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