GTA IV just broke my 360 - gutted

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  1. Scott23

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    Put on GTA tonight and within 10 seconds of moving Nico in the house towards the door the screen froze and then on a reboot the red rings of death showed up. Nightmare.....:mad:

    What am I going to do for my GTA IV fix now? Just got completely hooked on it too!!
     
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    I doubt it was just GTA, but never mind. Only thing i can think of doing is buy an arcade to fill the gap while it is being repaired :smashin:
     
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    Re Quote Buy a PS3 :smashin::smashin:
     
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    :D Lol, i wouldn't but you never know
     
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    It wasn't GTA that broke your 360, just a hardware failer. Why is it allways a game that breaks it :rolleyes:
     
  6. Scott23

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    I know it wasn't GTA :) Just gutted as I am hooked on the game and I am now facing possibly weeks waiting for a new one!! Ah well.......
     
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    Games do not break your console. :devil:
     
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    Aids do.
     
  9. Stackers

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    Not as such but I've read that only some games use all 3 processors which means the 360 gets hotter which can lead to H/W failure and RROD.
     
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    Well, GTA IV broke my console (or at least sent it over the edge) - the RROD appeared for the first time when I put the game in after it came out, went away for a while but came back permanently whilst playing GTA subsequently.

    So I bought an arcade to keeping me going while the old machine was getting repaired, runs quieter and cooler especially when streaming media i.e. no dvd-drive running.

    Got my old box back with a free months Xbox live sub today, 2 weeks only for the repair turnaround.

    I now intend selling on the repaired box so all-in-all, result :)
     
  11. Scott23

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    Isn't it sad though that this is what you have to do with 360 consoles? I am really annoyed as it failed 13 months past purchase date so warranty just out and for a £250 console to fail in 13 months of fairly light use is pretty crap in my opinion. My PS2 lasted for years with no problems at all, every Nintendo console I have ever had (all the way from a NES years ago) have been hammered and never broken, my wii has worked without fail. MS build quality not good and I will be investing in a PS3 when this is all sorted. Just a pain that I can't take my GTA save across from my 360 to a PS3 :(
     
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    Cod 4 broke mine last sunday but it had been played alot since it was released so it wasn't to bad.
     
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    its gets too repetitive... ur lucky :)
     
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    The warranty isn't out as it's 3 years for the red lights, and turn around is around 10 days for repairs.

    I've had 2 different 360s suffer red lights and now one of them has a dodgy DVD drive. I still love it though, and wouldnt trade it for any other console.

    Anyway, I hope you get it sorted quickly :smashin:
     
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    I can understand people's frustration with consoles doing this, tbh i've been expecting mine to do it, i bought it new from gamestation in aug 2006, so in 2 months I will have had it 2 years.

    It's had tones of use, whilst I was playing games like forza I'd leave it on for over 40h at a time, even now I turn it on in the morn and just leave it on all day and i've not had a single problem with it, surprising considering it's age and use compared to the high failure rate.

    Fingers crossed lol :smashin:
     
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    As others have said its just a coincidence, but to answer the point regarding other consoles being more reliable there are several things ot consider.

    Older console that were cartridge based had less moving parts that could cause potential failure and to a large extent could be run off a simple 12v AC adapter that was external to the console. The modern consoles have optical drives which have multiple moving parts with potential for motor/spindle failure, laser failure. Some have HDD's which used to come with warranties around 3-5 years, consider yourself lucky these days if you get any warranty over a year as the reliabilty has nose dived as the technology as shrunk. Modern consoles have high power requirements which generate more heat and also require many different supplies of voltages and current from their power supplies. The modern consoles all generate silly amounts of heat which in a case designed to be as small and sleek as possible is a nightmare. Finally the consoles now are so expensive to design and actually manufacturer that cost cutting introduces even more potential for problems.

    When you consider all the pitfalls I have listed above every console released in the future is going to have a weak spot. The 360's is poor and should never have got to the stage it did but the days of the majority of consoles bought lasting 3+ years as been and gone now I'm afraid.

    The PS3 will have Bluray issues, its inevitable in new technology. The Wii from my limited experience isn't blameless either if you've ever had a DOA one on xmas day you'd understand, also tell those Wii gamers who had to return their consoles for repair because the drive wouldn't read dual layer properly and stopped them playing Smash Brawl that there is no issues.

    In summary we all need to just accept our consoles are not as well built as they used to be so its the service we get when they go wrong now which will be just as important. Microsoft thankfully are starting to get better at it. I've heard Sony are excellent and Nintendo about the same as Microsoft for turnaround.
     
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    As I mentioned above I'm not sure it is coincidence but more down to the way certain games are more processor hungry which due to the design can cause RROD.

    If i remember right Dead Rising was one of the 1st games that "Broke my console" and it was using 2 or 3 processors.
     
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    I think most reports are down to the fact that the consoles are used more when a new game is releases rather than any of them pushing the 360 harder.
     
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    I think it's fair to say that some games are going to be more process intensive than others tho and GTA4 fits in that category. If you only ever played Sensible Soccer for example I would imagine the chances of RROD are virtually nil!
     
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    Managed to get a brand new replacement under warranty - result!! Thank god for the SOGA!!
     
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    Should of taken gta back to and told them it broke the 360.
     
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    I wouldn't say GTA has broken my 360 but it has given my Panasonic PX70 a nasty screen retention problem.
    The lower left circle which acts as the map indicator has been visible if I switch to a blank black screen for about a week of not playing now. Its been getting fainter and fainter and to be honest it has nearly gone.

    Gave me a bit of a scare! :rolleyes:
     
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    has it not got screen burn protection built in?
     
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    Not really. Usually its just retention not burn in.
    Just that this retention took alot longer to disappear than normal.

    Have not experienced any where near that sort of level on any other game.
     
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    The only problem with that theory is that the RROD is GPU centered not CPU.
     
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    And the gpu doesn't heat up much more than games such as sensi soccer with game like gta? Where the gpu is having to render many more times than in other games?! Either way, I gotta agree with stackers
     
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    I'll agree to disagree :smashin:
     
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    RROD is caused by a hardware fault......CPU/GPU intensive games cause excessive heat which can lead to the issue.

    For your info.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems
     
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    For your info the wiki is wrong. The home users fix for the RROD is to swap the heatsink mounting for the GPU (x-clamps) and you should then overheat the GPU to rebridge any faulty solder connections. When you do this you cannot overheat the CPU like you do the GPU otherwise it will cut off both chips and stop generating the heat because the CPU actually has built in temperature protection. If I was to put a number on it I'd say over 80% of RROD failures are because of manufacturing defects with the GPU, and yes heat may accelerate the problem but it is not the cause.
     
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    Conveniently wrong huh! ;)

    I've never denied it was a manufacturing defect but it's caused by heat. where did you get your 80% from? Kinda sounds like you plucked that from thin air!

    It still goes without saying that a game like GTA4 which uses more resources, be it CPU/GPU, is far more likely to overheat your 360 than an arcade game.....if you cant see that then you're arguing for the sake of it.
     

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