Rustybin
Outstanding Member
If people don't like Armageddon they're watching it wrong!Armageddon is great. One of those films you can forgive because it's so outrageously ludicrous it's brilliant.
If people don't like Armageddon they're watching it wrong!Armageddon is great. One of those films you can forgive because it's so outrageously ludicrous it's brilliant.
Armageddon is great. One of those films you can forgive because it's so outrageously ludicrous it's brilliant.
I don't get it. I mean, if Armageddon had amazing action/disaster scenes, I might be ok putting up with it's aggressive stupidity. But it cant even do that right. The climax of Deep Impact blows away anything in Armageddon.
I just find the whole film reassuring. It's nice to know the Americans have got the world sorted in the event of something like this actually happening.I don't get it. I mean, if Armageddon had amazing action/disaster scenes, I might be ok putting up with it's aggressive stupidity. But it cant even do that right. The climax of Deep Impact blows away anything in Armageddon.
Does self edited mode mean that you fast forwarded through it on rewatch? I assume you watched it at normal speed on first playthrough?I just rewatched Greenland (only saw it a month ago). Self edited mode so about an hour.
a bunch of drill guys get trained as astronauts in lightning quick fashion, then just pop off into space to drill a hole in an asteroid and save the earth.
Or...
they could have had a bunch of astronauts trained as drillers, and pop off into space to drill a hole in an asteroid and save the earth.
As Affleck himself said, how hard is it to learn to drill? You point the drill at the ground and turn it on...
1/10
But even the best drillers in the world struggled and nearly failed. Space rockets pretty much drive themselves these days.Or...
they could have had a bunch of astronauts trained as drillers, and pop off into space to drill a hole in an asteroid and save the earth.
As Affleck himself said, how hard is it to learn to drill? You point the drill at the ground and turn it on...
1/10
I'm feeling generous giving this film 5/10.
Lots of comments about it being quite realistic. I completely disagree. The entire insulin subplot was ridiculous. The schmalzy "divorced but everything's fine" relationship was nauseating and unrealistic. And the sheer entitlement of the main characters, continually doing things purely to advance the plot rather than having any grounding in reality, simply made them seem like arseholes rather than people I wanted to root for.
Hardened military person: "Sir, I can't let you do that!"
Hero: "But it's for my family!"
Hardened military person: "Oh go on then"
(Not actual dialogue but might as well be.)
Aside from that, the effects were only mediocre for a new film. I don't mind films where the effects take a back seat to the story (eg Seeking a Friend for the End of the World). But if a film is getting billed as a disaster film (which this is), and it doesn't show much in the way of disaster, it better do the drama well, with believable characters and decisions. Greenland doesn't.
There were some enjoyable parts, outside of the stupid insulin plotline and the suspension of disbelief needed to accept that these people above all others needed saving. They were too few and far between to save the film though.
Before watching it, my hope was for a film that focuses on the sheer impossibility of an effective human response to a disaster of this magnitude, and not a glamourised "one man rescuing his family against all odds" like so many other disaster films. Greenland hints at the former in its build-up, and in one or two of the military-related scenes. It could have been excellent if it made that its focus, but it didn't, it went the tried and tested "man's and family" route. Perhaps that's why I was so disappointed by it. An opportunity squandered IMO.
PS I enjoyed Armageddon because it knew exactly what it was: big, bold and stupid.
PS I enjoyed Armageddon because it knew exactly what it was: big, bold and stupid.
Rewatch yes. Already watched in 1 and a bit times last month.Does self edited mode mean that you fast forwarded through it on rewatch? I assume you watched it at normal speed on first playthrough?
Obviously I'm making some assumptions! I'm just not sure how you can objectively appraise or reappraise something if you don't watch the whole thing properly?
I get the irony that all of us are subjective critics btw. FWIW I enjoyed deep impact too.
I was expecting it to end on that note and was surprised about that there was extra stuff.Personally I would have ended the film with. But given that we're in a pandemic, I doubt that's the ending the filmmakers would want to leave is with!the family closing their eyes before fading to black- leaving the viewer uncertain if anyone survived