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Greatest Movie Director Ever

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  1. loz99

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    My Top five all time greats are as follows:-

    Sergio Leone 10/10
    Francis Ford Coppola 10/10
    Oliver Stone 10/10
    Martin Scorcese 9/10
    Brian De Palma 8/10 (correction)

    I find it difficult to place the first three in order of preference

    I'll bet some of you guys will be horrified that I ommitted
    Quinten Tarantino - firstly I know he's has a fantastic cult following, I feel he appeals more to a younger generation
    than me so forgive me lads?
    That is all.

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    Scorcese? Too hit n miss. Gangs of New York was very weak, and Bringing out the Dead? *yawn*
     
  3. Kevo

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    Hitch
    Wells
    Billy Wilder
    Frank Capra
    Carol Reed
    David Lean

    To name but a few of the 'true greats'.

    Are in a different class than the five you listed Loz.
    And they would agree with that too.

    The problem with them is they lack consistency and are just as likely to make a BOMB as a box office hit.

    I think you've probably based your list on recently viewed DVDs.
     
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    I understand that Quentin Tarentino (or any other director for that matter) may not be your cup of tea so to speak but when your making a compilation of the "Greatest Movie Director Ever" surely it's a little unfair to leave out any director because the subject matter that they choose to address dosn't appeal to you... what do you think?

    Just my humble opinion of course.

    Regards,
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    ok Kevo, good point but they are almost vintage directors
    you've listed well Capra,Wells & Lean anyway, you could have mentioned Kubrick, Attenborough & Sturgess as well.
    I'm only stating who in my opinion I think are the greatest
    from a list of 10 at least.
    BTW, I have three of David Lean's movies which I love, on dvd.
    Are the five you listed in fact your choice of the greatest top five Directors ever or just five you used to make a quick point? Who do you personally believe to be the 5 greatest Directors ever?

    Since I started out on dvds I got to see movies better than I had
    ever seen them before, I'm sure you agree that it has been the
    same for many of you guys. So lots of movies I'd only watched on Cinema, TV or Video ages ago, seemed to come alive on dvd (dvd does have the effect of bringing one closer to a movie).

    Yes Iain, that's a good point 'The Subject Matter' but that never
    crossed my mind at the time of choosing who I believe were the
    greatest five ever, I've lots of older movies in my dvd collection
    so my choice is not based on recently viewed movies.

    O.K. I'm gonna stick my neck out here and say I believe that from the beginning of the 1970's the quality & direction of movies has
    been more proffesional than ever before - the only thing lacking
    perhaps recently is originality (this also applies to music).

    That is all

    loz99
     
  6. Lex

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    I think this thread would be more appropriate in the Movies & TV forum... Moving ;)
     
  7. Lex

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    I can scupper the argument in favour of Frances Ford Coppola in one word: Jack :eek: :thumbsdow


    David Fincher is a modern master imho :smashin:
     
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    JAMES CAMERON
     
  9. Lex

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    In the 1980s :smashin:

    In the 1990s :thumbsdow
     
  10. loz99

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    Lex,
    Who would you choose as greatest five Directors ever?
    Or even you top five favourites?
    That is all

    loz99
     
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    The problem is that Director's tend to be very inconsistent - with most 'top' directors half of their films are masterpieces, and the other half below average, eg Spielberg, Zemeckis, Cameron, Coppola, Scorsese, Scott etc...
    The only Director I find to be brilliantly consistent is Terry Gilliam - I have loved every one of his films.

    Another one of my favourites is David Fincher who has done Se7en & Fight Club which were fantastic, but he also did The Game & Alien 3 which were not so good.

    Tim Burton is probably the finest visual director's ever, but he can't tell a story to save his life! Same with John Woo.

    I suppose Peter Jackson is a fairly consistent film-maker, I don't think he has made a bad film yet.

    So in conclusion... :D

    Terry Gilliam

    Ridley Scott

    David Fincher

    Peter Jackson

    Martin Scorsese

    :suicide:
     
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    Akira Kurosawa

    Can't be ars*d to do a top 5 as he would be all 5 and is better than any top 5 ever put together :)


    with the possible exception of Hayao Miyazaki, not live-action, but what animations have come near his work in the last 50 years?
     
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    Terminator 2 anyone??
     
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    Great input Lex,

    'The problem is that Director's tend to be very inconsistent - with most 'top' directors half of their films are masterpieces, and the other half below average, eg Spielberg, Zemeckis, Cameron, Coppola, Scorsese, Scott etc...'

    Excellent point made, My sentiments entirely.

    Two of my top five or rather my top two of the five are
    Sergio Leone & Oliver Stone.

    Sergio Leone only made/directed, as you probably know already,
    6 movies before he died ie :-

    A Fistful Of Dollars
    For A Few Dollars More
    The Good The Bad and the Ugly
    Once Upon A Time in the West
    Fistful Of Dynamite
    Once Upon a time in America
    (All Morricone music as well)

    Everyone of these are undeniable artistic/stylistic Masterpieces.
    That's why I rate Sergio Leone so very,very highly.

    Oliver Stone on the other hand has directed 12 movies (+ 2 very low budget jobs hardly worth a mention).

    Whilst I believe all his movies are brilliant, only about 6 are
    masterpiece material, namely:-
    JFK
    Nixon
    Born on the Fourth of July
    Platoon
    Salvador
    Heaven & Earth

    The other 6 are merely Brilliant:-
    Natural Born Killers
    The Doors
    Talk Radio
    Wall Street
    U Turn
    Any Given Sunday

    Thing with Oliver Stone I like so much is that he crams so much content into all his movies and all of them beg repeated viewing
    to be really appreciated, Old Ollie is a very very intelligent man
    without doubt a genius and a very couragous movie maker.
    He individually concieves his movies, produces them, does all his
    own screenplays and directs them as well.
    His choice of cast is fabulous, he's a perfectionist of the highest calibre and gives his movie audience superb value for money.
    This guy writes screenplays for other directors movies as well, namely:-
    Conan The Barbarian
    Evita
    Midnight Expess
    Scarface
    to name but a few.
    Writes books and does documentaries etc etc.
    Oliver Stone in my opinion, is a living legend.
    I know he's controversial but I like him for it.

    Scorcese is admittedly hit and miss at times but who isn't in
    awe with these paticular movies? :-
    Raging Bull
    Goodfellas
    Casino
    Taxi Driver
    Mean Streets

    I have never ever seen Gangs of New York and it's long overdue
    a viewing by me.
    Is it worth buying Lex?
    have you seen it?

    That is all
    loz99
     
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    1) David Lynch
    2)Stanley Kubrick
    3) Darren Aronofsky
    4)Ridley Scott (mainly for Bladerunner)
    5)Quentin Tarentino
    6)George Romero
    7 EErrrrhhh ??




    Rob
     
  16. Sinzer

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    My favourite directors (in no particular order) are :-

    Tim Burton - Simply visually astounding, always captures a cartoon feel to his films.
    John Carpenter - Master of schlock, later films have been awful, but for B-Movie horror he was the master.
    John Woo - Shame he went to the states, this guy transformed action movies into art :(
    Stanley Kubrick - Possibly the greatest director of all time, I simply cannot think of a really bad film of Kubricks.
    David Lynch - This man has twisted my mind so many times, plus directed one of the best novel adaptations ever, the classic Dune.

    I have not put in Peter Jackson as I don't think he has done enough yet. George Lucas has gone mighty soft and Steven Spielberg has joined him. I would class greatest directors are people who make films that you enjoy over and over again.
     
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    I can't believe this thread has got this far without anybody even suggesting Ingmar Bergman. :eek:

    Other possible candidates:

    Sam Peckinpah
    Howard Hawks
    Orson Welles
    Bernardo Bertollucci
    Alfred Hitchcock
    Akira Kurosawa
    Federico Fellini

    It's a difficult question to answer because, while it's relatively to think of superb films, almost any director has had his share of absolute stinkers. If we judge Coppola on the basis of The Godfather parts 1 and 2 or Apocalypse Now, then sure, he's a great director. Judge him by Jack, and... well, there you go. Similarly, if one judges Stanley Kubrick on the basis of Dr Strangelove: genius. But Eyes Wide Shut? Hm.
     
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    Here are some of my favs, and why (in no order at all):

    1) David Lean - Master of those epic films, and a fantastic visual director. Lawrence of Arabia being his standout film, Bridge on the River Kwai a close second.

    2) Ridley Scott - I can't think of a badly directed Ridley Scott film. There have been poor ones, like Legend and GI Jane, but they all look good. This vision, when working alongside a good script, makes Ridley's work stand out. Fav film, Alien with Gladiator a second.

    3) Peter Jackson - And not just for Fellowship of the Ring, either. I thought Frighteners, Heavenly Creatures and Bad Taste (I love films like that) are all very good too. Jeffrey Combs' character in The Frighteners was a stroke of genius. Fav: Fellowship, Frighteners second.

    4) Bryan Singer - How hard is it to do a believable superhero film? Very hard. I mean, there are numerous attempts and very few have succeeded as X-Men 1+2 have. Usual Suspects and Apt Pupil are also first class films and are my favs.

    Russell
     
  20. Lex

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    I have to admit that I haven't seen it yet! :blush: Don't know why, just haven't gotten around to it.
    I agree about Oliver Stone being a great Director - I think that Natural Born Killers is one of my favourite all time movies, it is just smart film-making imho I also agree about him being very couragous film maker :smashin:

    Overrated in my opinion, it was more or less a big budget remake of The Terminator. Very dated now too.
     
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    HI Folks,

    My choice, in no particular order of preference would have to include:

    Ridley Scott - for Gladiator, Blade Runner, Alien, Thelma And Louise and 1492: Conquest Of Paradise

    James Cameron - for Titanic, Aliens, The Terminator, T2, and generally being a damn good pulp-movie director

    John Woo - for The Killer, Hard-Boiled and Bullet In The Head: Three masterpieces in action-cinema, that shows you don't need CGI effects to do great stunts!

    Krzysztof Kieslowski - for giving world cinema fans the Three Colours trilogy! Possibly the finest set of foreign movies in the past 20 years.

    And, last of all, the sublime Hayao Miyazaki, for "My Neighbour Totoro", the absolute number one childrens film ever made, period!

    I would have liked to include some female directors, but Jane Campion's stuff is very hit-and-miss (although An Angel At My Table is brilliant) and Kathryn Bigelow has done a couple of great films, including Near Dark (the recently re-released vampire flick) and Strange Days, but also gave us Point Break, which was one of the dumbest action films I've seen, because of its two leads. The idea to pair up Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze was not a good one! The film itself, wasn't too bad, but Keanu and Patrick were just dire!

    Lastly, I know there are lots of great directors from the past who could also be mentioned, including Ingmar Bergman (for whom Fanny And Alexander, I really love), but a lot of so-called truly great directors, (Scorsese, Luc Besson, David Lean, Orson Welles, etc, etc) have made only a few truly great films. Some of their output has simply been classified "great" but actually isn't that good at all, for which Citizen Kane immediately springs to mind. A good film? Yes. A great film? No, not at all! Even if you do take into consideration the era the film was made in, the cast, the crew, the budget, etc, etc. Ditto with Gone With The Wind. Good? Just about. Great? No way!

    Pooch
     
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    I think age plays a major part in members' choice here.
     
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    I have to disagree with you PoochJD - while I don't appreciate Citizen Kane and Gone with the Wind because of my age and without a doubt cinema techniques / requirements are much more sophisticated now-a-days, but we can't knock a film because of what we feel...I know lots of fans of two of the above films who would love to put you right :) I means its recognised that many camera and editing techniques were created in Citizen Kane which may have kicked started moderm cinema?

    If I was to name my favourite directors tho, i'd be hard pushed - I love Speilberg...yeah he makes candy floss films, but so what, they are enjoyable and in some ways thought provoking subjects!!

    Scorsese for artistic interpretation...and good films too :)

    And too many others to name - but i'm more into my films rather than following a director who made them.
     
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    Speilberg:- Jaws, The Colour Purple, Close Encounters, E.T., Indiana Jones, Shindlers List, Saving Private Ryan, Jurassic Park, Minority Report.
    Scott:- Alien, Blade Runner, Thelma & Louise, Gladiator
    Kubrick:- 2001, Full Metal Jacket, The Shining
    Cameron:- The Terminator, T2, Aliens, The Abyss
    Peter Jackson:- FOTR, TTT, Frighteners, Braindead
    Fincher:- Fight Club, Alien3, Seven, The Game

    Just off the top of my head mind you.
     
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    how can you people not mention ED WOOD!!!! do you have no taste!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
     
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    Gotta add clint for some of the best westerns ever made! shame most of his other films are so bad :(
     
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    Yes totally.
     
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    'I think age plays a major part in members' choice here.'
    Spot-On Kevo!
    (and it also applies to music tastes as well).
    However, us older guys have been around and have seen
    a lot more, so we've had a lot more time to analyse movies
    over the years.
    I remember watching 'The Good ,The Bad and the Ugly' way
    back in 1968 in our local cinema!! I've loved it ever since!!

    Very few movies being released today have that originality
    & charisma!! However I do believe that movies from 1980
    onwards are more polished & more professionally done.
    Whilst I don't go GaGa over movies like 'The Matrix' I do
    admire their it's classy finish. The Special Effects & CGI today is
    simply incredible. It's just overcooked a bit sometimes e.g.
    James Camerons 'Titanic' - The Ship looks like it's made of plastic,
    dvd made this even more apparent.

    Horses for Coarses Kevo :)

    That is all

    loz99
     
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    Hmmm, I don't have favourite directors as a rule as they don't tend to be consistent as has been said allready. If I were to pick a director that stands out from the others with his own unique style then I'd say Michael Mann, Manhunter and Heat would be very different films if it were not for this director.
     
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    Stanley Kubrick is the man for me.

    As for someone still alive, I would have to go for the Coen brothers. They both direct, although Joel gets that particular credit on the titles.
     

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