good prog scan player for under £250?

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  1. dan_wade

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    I will be getting my first projector after Crimbo, a Panasonic ae500. Since im gonna be spending 1500 on a projector, i feel a little silly just using my standard dvd player through it, an XBOX/PS2 at the mo!

    I was looking for something under the 250 quid mark. Only just started looking. The two that caught my eye are from Richer Sounds. The Panasonic DMRE50 (£270, very good review, but no prog scan) and the Cambridge Audio DVD59 (another good review).

    I am basicaly wanting something with dolby digital and DTS, but also dolby digital ES and DTS ES output. Progessive scan. Quality is also important in terms of video and audio.

    Does anyone here have either the Panasonic DMRE50 or the Cambridge Audio DVD59?

    Any thoughts?

    Cheers,
    Dan. (newbie)
     
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    I know this is a silly questions. But would you say the jump to a 200 quid player is even worth it? I knowmost of you guys down really go below 400 quid on most of your players, but will i notice a big enough jump in terms of visual and audio quality from an xbox to the Cambridge Audio DVD59 player? Even if my xbox would be connected by component too?

    What is better quality, svideo or component?

    Cheers,
    Dan.
     
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    Yeh it would be worth upgrading rather than use the Xbox.

    Component is far superior to s-vid, even more so if using prog scan.

    Also worth noting is that as good as the Panasonic is it is also a recorder. Generally a £270 recorder wont be as good as a £270 player although this is debatable. I do know that my Philips DVD recorder is not as good playing 'normal' DVD's as my Harman Kardon DVD2550, similar price at the mo.

    Whilst on the subject the HK can be had for £250-280 and that is DD & DTS with PAL & NTSC prog scan.
     
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    One of the main reasons for going for a full time DVD player was because they supported progressive scan. But i hear the built in features of the new projectors is equal if not better than those on the DVD player. Can somenone explain why?
     
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    see what fred123go has to say!
    PJ deinterlace everything to display but DVD players general have better deinterlacing!
    I second the HK DVD25/2550 (silver) as a superb and very easy to PS player. and a steal at £250!
     
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    I think its basicaly between the Cambridge Audio DVD59 from richer sounds and the HK DVD25. For a short time i was thinking about possibly getting the Denon 2200, but at more than double the rpice (£530) thats seems a little silly.

    Both the Cambridge Audio DVD59 and the HK and PAL/ntsc progressive component output. Would would anyyone say is better with audio/video?

    Both support Dolby Digital and DTS, but i wanted to make my system as futire proof as poss for the money. Will any of these support DD ES and DTS ES? Is it only the amp that i should check supports DTS ES or the DVD player too? I haven't found any dvd players, even high speced ones that say they support DTS ES?

    Cheers,
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    anyone?
     
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    I am like you. im just about to get my first projecter and am after a dvd player.
    I have ended up going for a sony 730 for £130. It's pal and ntsc PS and is imo much better that the dvd 59. I have looked at all the cabridge audio machines and i can say that the ps output on these machines shows little if any improvment over interlaced. And the interlaced image is poor.
    so my choice was either the HK25 or the sony 730.
    So 730 it is.
    This was because i new that wheather i got the 730 or the 25 that in a couple of monthes, when i have some more cash, and hopfully there are some move dvi,hdmi players that i will want a FAT, big boy dvd player.

    So if you want a player to last go for the HK25 (£250-£300)
    if you want a interim player until you can get better go for the 730(£130)

    Dc


    edit- its only the amp that needs to be able to decode ES/EX, most if not all players will output ES/EX
     
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    Also consider Marantz DV4300 (not DV4400 as this is not PS)
    BUT HK is a better machine than marantz!
    Marantz is £180 ish so very similar to Sony personally i think HK does a good job of spinning a CD at least as good as an entry Decent CD player marantz CD5400 IMHO
     
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    No offence Dragon, but the Marantz 4300 does not do pure PAL progressive , search for the review on this web site HERE .In the past 10 days I have had three progressive scan dvd players(both PAL and NTSC) these were the Toshiba 530, Marantz 4300 , and the Harman Kardon dvd2550s.By far the best of the bunch is the HK, but that is my own opinion.There are plenty of threads on these, plus get a demo if you can, to see for yourself.
    I hope this has helped, even if only slightly.

    Andy
     
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    Andy i agree with the HK being the best of the bunch! Have only ever really run the DV4300 through smaller plasmas 32" and 37"
     
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    Guys, are there any good online retailers for HK players?
     
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    homecinemaheaven have HK as do hifibitz IIRC best bet is your local dealer, get a demo while you are there
     
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    I would love to, but i'm really limited here (northern ireland). Used to have a few decent AV shops, now its a choice between very few including richer sounds and one particular shop who clutch their prices from thin air, then add 25% for good measure.

    Thanks for the tip though!
     
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    i reckon i should open a shop in NI loads of members from that neck of the woods!
     
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    Wasabi, I think the Denon 1400 doesn't have any kind of progressive scanning at all, as it doesn't mention it on their web site.As far as the Pioneer 565, this machine only has NTSC progressive.
    It's a real pity :( as both these machines have good specs and have made very good dvd players in the past.

    Andy
     
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    Absolutely, we need a good hifi store in the centre of Belfast :)
     
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    do you guys know if this model (hk25) has multiregion support my standard?
     
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    Yup that'd do it:smashin:

    Croc
     
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    Montana,

    I know 565 doesn't have pal prog, I actually just wanted to say that Denon kicked butt with 565, as we can see on the benchmark, 565 failed a few things. But you are right, my mistake about the Denon, I guess they removed the faroudja chip, I thought it had prog scan as the unit looks the same.

    Well, too bad UK is being ripped off.

    Wasabi
     

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