Golf GTi MkV tyre choice?

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Golf GTi MkV tyre choice

Poll closed Oct 2, 2017.
  1. Michelin Pilot Sport 4 - £117.30 each

    2 vote(s)
    66.7%
  2. Michelin Cross Climate - £128.50 each

    1 vote(s)
    33.3%
  3. Pirelli P Zero - £104.99 each

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Pirelli P Zero Rosso - £127.50 each

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  1. AMc

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    My '58 plate GTi came with Pirelli P Zero Rosso 225/40 18 all round (IIRC).
    I couldn't find them last time so I fitted Michelin Pilot Sport 3 on the back.
    No complaints about them but nothing to rave about. I don't take the car to the track and I drive briskly but not like a rally driver on the road.

    Last year I fitted Michelin Cross Climate on our Mini in case we got snow as I have an 8 mile cross country school run. The weather in East Anglia was mild and never saw snow, they were fine in the wet and cold though and were a massive ride improvement over the Bridgestone runflats.

    Now I need new fronts again for the GTi and I have a choice.

    Pirelli P Zero - £104.99 each
    Fuel E
    Wet A
    72dB
    Load index 92
    Y speed rated
    225/40Y18 (92)

    Michelin Pilot Sport 4 - £117.30 each
    Fuel C
    Wet A
    71dB
    Load index 92
    Y speed rated
    225/40Y18 (92)

    Pirelli P Zero Rosso - £127.50 each
    Fuel E
    Wet A
    71dB
    Load index 88
    Y speed rated
    225/40Y18 (88)

    Michelin Cross Climate - £128.50 each
    Fuel C
    Wet B
    69dB
    Load index 92
    Y speed rated
    225/40Y18 (92)

    I have a sneaky suspicion that I wouldn't tell the difference between any of these but what would you choose and why?
     
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  2. booyaka

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    I think your probably right - 95% of us either couldn't tell the difference or don't care. I've generally always just stuck with Michelin tyres but for no particular reason!
     
  3. AMc

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    The Michelin Pilot Sport 4 are my current front runner, mainly because of A rating in the wet and C rating for fuel. Again I'm not sure I'll notice the difference in my pocket from better fuel economy.
    Still curious what anyone else would do.
     
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    important info missing,load index and speed rating..Not all tyres that sizes have the same load index and speed rating..
     
  5. AMc

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    Fair point, I've added them to the first post.
    Looking at the descriptions they're all Y speed rated (186mph) which is well above the top speed of the car even when it was new :)

    The Rosso are lower load rated than the others which seems a bit odd.

    I have 92 Y on the front and back at the moment.
     
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    I used Goodyear f1 assy 2 on a golf r32. 225/40 18. Suited the car very well.
     
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    Forget the asymmetric 2's - they've been replaced by the better (and cheaper) asymmetric 3's.
     
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    Weird - A2 are £126.76 at Blackcircles

    Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 - £97.26 at Blackcircles plus a £10 off code for buying 2.
    Fuel C
    Wet A
    67dB
    225/40 R18 Y (92)

    I'd almost made my mind up for the Michelin PS4! :rolleyes:
     
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    I'm going for the asymmetric 3's next time. The michelin ps4 is a great tyre but the Goodyear is cheaper and has less road noise.
     
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    Agreed, it was 2 years since I bought tyres for the golf and since sold it.
     
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    it's been about 20yrs since I bought any of the mainstream tyre manufactures..Been using falken's/toyo's for the last 12yrs..
     
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    Fitted Michellin Pilot Sport 4 - great service from STS Tyre Pros in Acle as ever. If you're in the East of Norfolk I would recommend them.

    Car is a lot quieter than the worn Pirellis it had on the front but then a new tyre to a 2mm tread isn't a fair comparison. Braking is nice and sharp again and I can't spin up the front wheels in 2nd any more ;) again what else would you expect from a brand new tyre?
    Happy enough with the tyres a bit sad about the state of my wallet but there you go ;)
     
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    I've just picked up a new GTD. Bridgestone Potensa tyres are fitted. Noisey, or have I been spoilt in the quiet comfort of an Audi Q3.
     
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    https://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/bridgestone/potenza-s001/225/40/R18/Y/92/f?tyre=30313437
    Rated E for fuel,
    B for wet stopping
    72dB for external noise

    £13 a wheel cheaper than the MPS4 I bought if ordered at Blackcircles (£102.79 vs £115.80)
    1 dB louder - but similar to the Pirelli I had before.
    Hopefully your getting good cornering for that E fuel rating.

    I read online that the noise rating isn't super useful as it's external not internal - I guess internal is so dependent on the cabin soundproofing and suspension that you couldn't objectively measure it across all types and sizes of tyre. External noise can be measured with a cablibrated set up and driving past.

    My suspicion would be the GTD has harder suspension so you're getting a bit more road noise but it's hard to be objective unless you used a sound meter app on your phone or a proper meter.
     
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    I've got a GTI with the same tyres and I have the same experience with noise. The Bridgestone's wear very slowly but as a consequence they don't have much grip - particularly in the wet.
    The GTI/GTD is not the quietest car inside anyway but the tyres don't help. Your Q3 would have been much quieter.
     
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    Just thought I would add to this - have a 2016 GTI PP and just changed the front tyres from Bridgestones to the Michelin PS4's and the change is quite dramatic!
    Did a lot of reading (probably too much!) but settled on the PS4s and a few hundred miles in am thinking I made the right choice, handles a lot better and seems to be a little quieter
     
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    GTi went in for MOT on Monday. I was a bit shocked when I got a call that the rear inside was below the limit, thought I'd checked them quite recently but clearly not :blush:
    So my mechanic offers me Michelin Pilot Sport 4 for £108 each fitted or Pirelli Zero for a bit less but he doesn't rate them.
    Had a really good experience of the Michelin Cross Climates on the Mini during the Beast from the East so I'm keen to get them on the Golf. His supplier can only get them for £140 a wheel :eek:
    I reluctantly agree to PS4.

    Then over lunch I check Blackcircles - £190.42 for a pair delivered to my mechanic on Wednesday. Give him a bell, "fine I'll cancel the order, keep the courtesy car until Wednesday, order them and have them delivered to me". Obviously I'm paying him to fit them and he's happy to put the new tyres on the front wheels. Order placed at 1pm.

    Got a call Tuesday at 9am - Blackcircles have just delivered my tyres, ahead of all his other parts deliveries even from the local suppliers, car will be ready that afternoon :).

    October/November is £290 for tax, an MOT, service and Insurance will be due too but at least I've saved a few bob. Top service from Blackcircles and from my friendly village mechanic :thumbsup:
     
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    FZRR.png ;)
     
  20. AMc

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    :confused: haven't seen that Avatar for a while :confused:
     
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    It still comes in handy once in a while :smashin:.
     
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    After a recommendation from my son I fitted Uniroyal Rainsport 3's on my Golf R.
    These tyres are as good as the Bridgestones they replaced in the dry but are fantastic in the wet.
    Only about £75 each too.
     
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    I always recommend Uniroyal Rainsport 3's. Great tyre for the price and the best wet tyre I've ever had.
     
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    Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 getting fitted tomorrow on my Mk7 golf GTI - £92 each including fitting at home so don't even need to leave the driveway.

    Done 17.5k on the tyres from new - backs are fine - plenty of life in them yet.
     
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    Very happy with mine - GTI Mk5, just had them all changed out last week and geo done. Drives like a different car now, replaced a right mishmash of cheapo brands that have been on the car since I bought it. They had plenty of life still in them, but knew that I wasn't getting the best out the car with them.
     

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