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Gladiator - R2 Superbit in May!

Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by Mr Merrick, Apr 5, 2003.

  1. Mr Merrick

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    Just browsed the new releases on www.play.com and found this:
    http://www.playserver2.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=114982

    I hope the DTS mix is in Discrete 6.1 (Like the Region 1) as opposed to the Matrix DTS-ES mix that's on the Region 2. I don't even think there will be a Region 1 superbit of this film as the distributors are different for each country, ie Columbia/ Dreamworks? :confused: who knows?
     
  2. tee

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    I've got a faunny feeling the R2 Superbit release of Gladiator will be plain old DTS 5.1......... at least there's no mention of an ES track on the press release
     
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    cd.japan list it as only 5.1 DD/dts!!!! how can this release be worth it when you consider the first releases superb pic and awsome dts6.1es:smashin:
     
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    to me I can't see the point of a superbit release as the Picture and Sound are great on the normal release


    from pete
     
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    What I don't get: Superbit is columbias idea and applies to columbia titles only
    Gladiator was part of the columbia deal but the rights should have gone back to universal by now?
    anyway you sure won't find a R1 superbit of gladiator.
     
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    The R1 original release is flawless.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    I was under the impression that the UKR2 was as well.
     
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    If the movie was released in theatres in DD EXor DTS Es, then the DVD will carry the same soundtrack. Remember, DTS ES discrete is not a theatrical format - es matrix is.
    I'm on the can't see the point in this release bandwagon here....
     
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    I agree entirely.
    It's like a more expensive single disc version of Gladiator.
     
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    Actually Superbit DVD's do have a little better picture quality on a HDTV with progressive scan DVD player...
     
  12. Jeff

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    The price has changed on Play to £9.99 from £14.99, if you have it on preorder you will want to cancel and reorder to save a fiver.

    BTW the R1 version isn't perfect, in fact there are a few scenes that are classic scaler testing material.
     
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    I expect the soundtrack will be the same as the first R2 release, as even that only has it listed as 'DD 5.1/DTS' on Play.

    Dunc
     
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    i watched this last night and i have to say that i'm still reeling from the experiance. while i didn't really notice the picture being significantly better (although saying that it was a rock solid picture and it was better when compared back to back with 2 disc release)

    But the sound - the sound was nothing short of breathtaking, the standard release has been a test disc of mine for some time - but the superbit sound just blew me away, people can moan that its not 6/7/8/9/10.1 sound but frankly it doesnt matter - the ambiant detail in the sound track was simply stunning. I've seen this film around 6 times and sounds i'd never noticed before just stood out.

    I dont know if its worth buying if you already have it - but if you get a chance to watch it do so - its nice to see that even our beloved format can be improved upon without replaceing all ones equipment. I'm not sure if i'll be able to watch an "ordinary" DTS soundtrack again.

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    it can be picked up for less than £8 at the moment from Splash by using the Voucher offer from the special offer forum (ends 17/8)
     
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    eh? So the soundtrack is different on the superbit to the standard version? I can't see how that can be true?:confused:
     
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    The superbit audio track is nearly always different.
     
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    Why can't they just release the best version first time around ?
     
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    Cause then they'd loose the opportunity to make money on the subsequent "better" release's of the same title....
     
  20. Jeff

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    Not in this case, Gladiator Superbit was never meant to be, wrong label. The fact is they can always do better if they really try.
     
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    There any side by side audio comparisons out there?
     
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    I have the r1 dts discrete version and i have to admit that the superbit version has a better sound,with improved balance.
    The superbit is indeed dts es matrixed,but is not correctly flagged!!
     
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    So the dts-es matrixed version sounds better than the dts discrete? Weird...
     
  24. Jeff

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    Not Really, more bandwidth per channel.
     
  25. Wayne Moule

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    What is the sound bandwidth of this disc,pre and post Superbit?
     
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    Id be willing to bet my last rolo that the Superbit region 2 and the american region 1 DTS versions both have the same 768kbps allotted data rate and that the region 1 DTS Discrete is better.

    Region 2 will have the 4% speedup so might sound very slightly different, this does not make it better and often when we spend vast amounts of money on cables or re-buy titles on the strengh of better pictures or sound we simply want them to be better and fool ourselves into believing theyre better, i know cos ive been down that path myself with cables and re-released dvd's, yesterday i tested an optical £8 pound cable against my original £80 coaxial which i had been using and guess wot, both sounded the same to me.

    Bottom line is that the picture may be better for those with projection systems but i doubt the sound can be a whole lot better, different perhaps better nope.
     

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