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Gladiator EE: R1 or R2

Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by Pug72, Aug 25, 2005.

  1. Pug72

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    Going to get this but would like to know which would be the better buy.

    The R2 is available soon and the R1 now, but was wondering which has the better picture quality.

    My original R2 disc has loads of edge enhancement, is it gone in the new release or is it the same.
     
  2. Indiana Jones

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    There is now a review about the R2 release, check out the link below...

    http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238312

    An important thing to remember is that the R1 release lets you view either the Theatrical cut or the Extended cut whereas the UK R2 release only includes the Extended cut so if having the option to watch the original film is important to you then you might want to get the R1 release.
     
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    mmm may pick up the R2 version as I have the R1 DTS ES version, be good to see whats been added to this IMHO great film.
    Spooks
     
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    Apparently its just the deleted scenes that were on the original 2 Disc release but I have never owned Gladiator on DVD so it will all be new to me.
     
  5. Gary D

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    How'd you manage that? :eek: :D i thought everybody had it :D


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    Regarding picture :

    My understanding is R1 is NTSC, and R2 is PAL. If it's the case then PAL is supposed to have better picture since PAL has at least 20% more lines than NTSC.
     
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    The PAL version will take up less time to watch due to 4% speed-up.
     
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    Dont ask me how I never managed to add it to my collection, saw it in loads of sales but just never bought it :D

    Just because PAL has more lines it doesnt automatically mean the picture quality will be better than NTSC, it all depends on how good the transfer is. I have read many posts on hear about R1 films that have got a better transfer than the UK release so thats worth taking into account when deciding on which version to buy.

    Also remember that PAL releases run 4% faster which not only means the film will play quicker but that the music will run 4% faster, personally I dont notice it but I am sure for some it makes watching the film unbearable.
     
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    Yes, sir.

    I am collecting only PAL DVD's. In my eyes, regular PAL has better picture than Superbit NTSC !!
     
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    In my experiences with many movies, still I prefer PAL. I used to have approx. 150 NTSC DVD's. But now approx. 200 PAL DVD's and approx. 15 NTSC. I wonder if there are reviews comparing NTSC vs PAL, movie by movie.

    I am not having any problem with 4% faster movies. Might be due to got accustomed to that.

    (I am using Denon A11, Marantz VP12S2 with 80" screen [using DVI])

    Thanks for your sharing ideas.
     
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    http://www.dvdcompare.net/index.php

    They occasionally do picture comparisons between regions, but its mainly the overall DVD they judge.

    I am not sure of anything else out there :confused:
     
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    Thanks a lot.

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    I have come across plenty of NTSC discs that have superior picture quality to their PAL counterparts (and vice versa of course). The difference the number of lines makes between the two is negligible. For example many of the lines in a PAL picture are not used for carrying picture information.

    Factors such as mastering, authoring and native resolution are much more important in determining the PQ of a disc.
     
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    Thanks for your info. I have heard that too but still I personally believe that going for PAL should statiscally be better than NTSC. What do you think ?

    The point is, it's very unfortunate that once we want to buy a DVD we don't know whether to go for PAL or NTSC !!


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    There is no way that PAL is unanimously better than NTSC. In contary to the above my collection is made up of almost entirely (i say almost because i have the odd PAL release where PQ is inherently better than the NTSC release) NTSC disc's.
    Also of note is it is quite common for the PAL release to have a reduced DD bitrate (compared to it's R1 conterpart) to presumably facilitate the addition space for the many Euro language tracks that are often included in R2 releases.
     
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    www.dvdbeaver.com do some Reg 2 versus Reg 1 comparison reviews. Interestingly, they often side with NTSC Region 1 DVD's being superior in picture quality (including the old 2 disc Gladiator!).

    However, there are some that buck the trend (Crimson Tide etc etc).

    I, too, would be interested in knowing which region is best of the new 3 disc Gladiator set.
     
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    You need to look at EACH disc to find the best. The old PAL / NTSC arument is just that, old.
     

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