At the moment Im using a basic Yamaha surround set up for h/c. The sub tends to start complaining on some dvds even though its turned almost off. Speech isnt the greatest either. But for all its faults it only cost £300 5 years ago and does a pretty good job. Im ready to upgrade now and want a package that improves on what I already have. I have a seperate system for hi fi so this is purely for h/c. 2nd hand would be more than fine, thats the way I buy hi fi anyway. New, only if I must. Around £1200 including amplifier (I dont need a receiver), Im unlikely to go much past 5.1 sound. I dont use the amp for digital switching, purely for audio and I use a PJ so dont even need shielded speakers. I dont want to spend time at demos, I think its irrelevant unless the whole kit and caboodle is set up in your own home. Reviews in hifi mags are treated with contempt. Been there , done that. % stars b@llox. Its your experience Im after. Looked at Keff eggs, not impressed, look pretty but thats about all. Any ideas ? posted to speaker section as well.