Getting a job

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  1. nootnoot144

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    Hiya so new to this site (posted in the hello thread)

    Thought I'd make my first post... how hard is it to get work? is anyone else hammering on at the job apps and just not getting anywhere? I have recently as last week had two interviews. One of them last Monday was I thought a good one as I came across really well, confident, answered questions clearly and they were really impressed with my CV (14 years of experience in admin) but still I didn't get it! was I over qualified?. I have gone for other jobs not to do with admin to keep my option open and still no joy. I had another interview before the last one and it was a 'work trial' had a chat with the boss then they put me on the line folding t shirts, taking them off the printing presses etc I did that for 3 hours. I'd find out a week later, I got a piddly little reply saying I didn't get it but then again I had a horrible sore throat after inhaling the ink fumes so maybe just as well but they got 3 hours of work out of me for nothing!.

    What's your experiences?
     
  2. wongataa

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    Ask for feedback from any unsuccessful interviews. It should give you some insights into why you were not selected.

    It can be disheartening job hunting. All you can do is keep applying and eventually one will come up that works out.
     
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    Did you discuss salary, tell them what you were looking for.

    The problem with loads of years experience (and I group myself in this) is that unless you are frequently rising up the ladder or expand the scope of your work you can become expensive.

    Rough number, plucked out of the air, I reckon that doing a job for 5 years and after that you are not really improving that much. And yet depending on company, your salary can increase each year until you find yourself being paid significant more than the bod on the next desk but no more capable.

    And I don’t mean that in a nasty way. Just that as a general rule anyone starts a job and their experience and expertises increases loads after one year, then less the next year until after 5 years they are pretty much maxed out and not increasing at all.

    Cheers,

    Nigel
     
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    It’s brutal out there mate. I’ve been in a steady job for 9 years now but the few years before that were all over the place and it was very difficult to find work. This was before all the apps so I’ve no idea what that must be like.

    My wife recently immigrated to the UK and she struggled to find work and it drained her. My advice is just keep trying. Each unsuccessful interview is another bit of experience you can put towards the next one. You’ll get a job eventually. Good luck to you.
     
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    My friend's grandson couldn't get a job for love nor money. Had many interviews but he is quite a shy lad. Eventually he got a paid job with a housing association and worked in their hostel for the homeless. A difficult job in which he had to get on really well with the clients and more especially the local police.

    As a result his confidence grew and he started to apply for jobs that better suited his skills. Recently he has been accepted as an apprentice with the local Police as a mechanic in their motor pool. A job that he really wanted as he something of a petrol head.

    Had he not taken the job with the housing association then his people skills would not have grown and his ability to project himself in the successful interview may not have been there. Take any job as it does seem easier to get through interviews if you're in a job rather than not.
     
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    And this is a fantastic example of what you sometimes have to do to get on. Well done to him.
     
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    exactly...when I left school It never occurred to me to not work, and I've been lucky to have only been unemployed (apart from uni) for 3 months since 1988...and I've had some crap jobs, but you certainly learn some life skills etc if nothing else...
     
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    Same here except 1992. Someone once said I was lucky to have never really been out of work and always had nice things etc.
    I reminded them of the old adage that the harder I work, "luckier"I seem to get...
    I do wish the OP well, he's in a horrible position and I agree that it's so much easier to get a job when you already have one.
     
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    There are always jobs, but the pay is insulting for some of the roles. I need a pay rise, but looking for other roles, shows i won’t be getting raise by changing jobs.

    Looks like it is robbing banks.
     
  10. Doug the D

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    Fudging dole bum, it's people like you that brought this country to it's knees :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
     
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    Having recently had the experience of looking for and applying for jobs my biggest shock was the lack of care, attention, feedback and impetus from recruitment agencies

    In registered with a couple and had to chase weekly (despite promise of weekly update calls from them) what progress was being made.

    I had more luck applying for jobs directly, however was left waiting for almost 2 months on the outcome of one application/interview despite chasing up

    I have a job now, but from my experiences alone setting up a consultancy service within recruiters/agencies would potentially be a money spinner - I am sure there are good ones out there but certainly not from my own personal experiences
     
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    I good recruiter is valuable but depends at what level job you're working at. They can charge up to 20% to get you into roles. Probably more. I've just gone through a recruiter and she was fantastic. Went from showing interest to interview within a week and starting the role in under a month. However she cost the company I work for now more than 10k for her services.

    If you're looking for hourly paid shift work go to local temp agencies and let them know you want to eventually get a perm role. If you're more professional or specialist get on linkedin
     
  13. Doug the D

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    I don't think I can copyright this, due to brand names, but I've always viewed LinkedIn like this;

    'LinkedIn. Like Facebook, but for people with jobs'

    :D
     
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    My GF got her last two jobs via LinkedIn. She didn’t even have to apply, they poached her. Basically told her to name her price :eek:
     
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    Was that in milk :laugh:
     
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    indeed, except when going through the feeds on linkedin- most people are throwing out motivational crap and being all nicey nice to people instead of what they're really like when posting on facebook etc..
     
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    Mmmm, poached girlfriend
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    Motivational nonsense on Facebook is one of the many reasons I jacked it in years ago. There's only so many Richard Branson/ Mo Farah/ Elon Musk quotes overlaid onto photos of clouds, rainbows, or sand dunes that one person can take :rotfl:

    I don't see it to much on my LinkedIn feed. If I do, then I will carry out an immediate cull :thumbsup: Unless they're offering me a job, then I'll suck it up #looseprinciples :laugh:
     
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    Depends on the job role of course.
     
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    The problem is that a lot of the job adverts out there are fake. Once I worked that out, I began to spot patterns.

    LinkedIn is king right now so getting that profile right is very important I got more job interviews (when I was getting them) through that than anywhere else. Understanding the tricks of creating a CV is still very important because that is what recruiters pass on to their clients. A lot of the parsing is automatic now so as I said, knowing how to build a CV is important.

    I'm pretty highly skilled and I've still been out of work for long periods between contracts or roles. My last two gaps were 1 year (stock market crash) and almost 3 years (another financial crash) and it can get very disheartening people looking at your CV and saying "why are you not working?". BTW I don't actually work in Finance.

    I'm currently 2.5 years into my current job so it is possible but I would say that I do have some idea as to how 95.5% of actors feel.
     
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    Agreed. But your LinkedIn profile is about the most important thing you can set up nowadays for certain roles.
     

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