Genre Defining Games!

CAS FAN

Distinguished Member
There have been so many genre defining games released this year IMO, so I thought i'd start a thread to see which games people felt best define the various gaming genres.

Games can come from any point in time, so if you feel that a Spectrum game is still the game that best defines a certain genre then go for it. A genre defining game is basically one which is the best example of it's genre. It should be the benchmark game which all future games will look to surpass.

Anyway, i'll record the results below from time to time and i've set up some common genre's. Some overlap each other and i'm sure that not all are included below, so if people want more genre's including then just say so and i'll add them. :) I've added my choices so far. You don't have to pick a choice for each catagory (you could just pick one if you liked) so feel free to post as many or as few choices as you like.

Oh and remember it's just for fun so try to keep any platform bias away from any discussion and just try to think of the games. :smashin:


3D Platform

- Mario Galaxy (Wii) - 2
- Mario 64 (N64)
- Banjo Tooie (N64)
- Tomb Raider (Multi)
- Ape Escape (PS1)



2D Platform

- Super Mario World (SNES) - 4
- Mario All Stars (SNES) - 2
- Donkey Kong Country 2 (SNES)
- Abe's Oddessy (PS1)

Sim Racing

- Gran Turismo 5: Prologue (PS3)
- Gran Turismo 1 (PS1) - 2
- Forza Motorsport 2 (360)
- Forza Motorsport 1 (XBox)
- F1 Grand Prix (PC)

Arcade Racing

- Sega Rally (original arcade/Saturn)
- MSR (DC)
- Burnout 2 (Multi) - 2
- Burnout Series (Multi)
- PGR2 (Xbox)
- Top Gear (SNES)
- Wipeout 2097 (PS1)


RPG

- Mass Effect (360)
- Terranigma (SNES) - 2
- Paper Mario :the 1000 year door (N64)
- FF VII (PS1) - 2
- Oblivion (PC/360/PS3)
- The Witcher (PC)
- Baldurs Gate (PC)
- Morrowind (Multi)
- Zelda: Link to the Past (SNES)

MMORPG

- Phantasy Star Online (DC)
- FFXI (Multi)
- Anarchy Online (PC)
- Everquest (PC)

Football

- FIFA 2008 (Multi)
- Sensible Soccer (Amiga) - 3
- Kick Off (Amiga)

Hockey

- NHL Hockey (Megadrive)

Boxing

- Fight Night Round 3 (Multi) - 3
- Ready 2 Rumble - (DC) - 2

Basketball


- International Basketball (C64)
- NBA Jam (SNES)

First Person Shooter Online

- Call of Duty 4 (Multi) - 2
- Enemy Territory: Quake Wars (PC)
- Counter Strike (PC)

First Person Shooter Offline

- Bioshock (360/PC) - 3
- Quake 2 (PC)
- Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (Wii)
- Doom/Doom2 (Multi) - 2
- System Shock 2 (PC)
- Deus Ex (PC) - 2
- Bioshock (PC/360)
- Call of Duty 4 (Multi)
- Portal (Multi) - 3

Offline Third Person Shooter

- Resident Evil 4 (multi) - 2
- Jet Force Gemini (N64)
- Space Hawk (Arcade)
- GRAW (Multi)
- Resident Evil Nemisis (PS1)
- Fur Fighters (PS2)


Online Third Person Shooter

- Gears of War (360/PC) - 2

Light Gun Game

- Operation Wolf (Arcade) - 2
- Point Break (PS1) - 2
- House of the Dead (Arcade)

Real Time Strategy


- Command & Conquer 3 (360/PC)
- Command & Conquer Generals + Zero Hour Expansion (PC)
- Command & Conquer 2 (Red Alert) (PC) - 2
- Homeworld 2 (PC)
- Dune 2 (PC)
- Total Annhilation (PC)
- Total War Series (PC)

Turn Based Strategy

- Laser Squad (Multi) - 2
- Final Fantasy Tactics (PS1) - 3
- Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis
- Civilisation (PC)
- Vulcan (Spectrum)

Casual Game

- Wii Sports (Wii) - 5
- Guitar Hero 2 (Multi)
- Warioware (Multi)
- Nintendogs

Party Game

- Mario Party (GC)

Beat 'em Up (1 v 1)

- Virtua Fighter 5 (Multi)
- Tekken 2 (PS1) - 2
- Street Fighter 2 Turbo (SNES) - 2
- Mortal Kombat (Multi)
- Smash Bros Melee (GC)
- Soul Calibur (Arcade/DC)

Beat 'em Up (3 or more)

- IK+ (Amiga) - 3

Beat 'em Up (scrolling)

- Target Renegade (Spectrum) - 2
- Streets of Rage 2 (Megadrive)
- Final Fight (Multi)
- Battle Toads (SNES)

Shoot 'em Up (Horizontal)

- R-Type (Multi) - 3
- Gradius
- X-Out (C64)
- Parsec (C64)

Shoot 'em Up (Vertical)

- Radiant Silvergun (Saturn) - 2
- Axelay Alternative Levels (SNES)
- Commando (Multi)
- Xenon 2 (Amiga)
- Ikaruga (Multi) - 2

Shoot 'em Up (3D)

- Rez - 2
- Starfox/Starwing (SNES) - 3
- Lego Star Wars (Multi)

Arcade/Adventure

- God of War (PS2) - 2
- Tomb Raider Aniversary (360)
- Tomb Raider (PS1)
- Tomb Raider 2 (PS1)
- ICO (PS2) - 2
- Shadow of the Colossus (PS2)
- Zelda: The Twighlight Princess (Wii/GC)
- Uncharted : Drakes Fortune (PS3)
- The Legend of the Mystical Ninja (SNES)

Survival Horror

- Resident Evil 1 (PS1)


Flight Simulation


- Wings (Amiga)
- Flight Simulator 2004 (PC)
- Flight Simulator X - 2
- Chocks Away (Archimedes)

Arcade Flight Game


- Blazing Angels (Xbox) - 2
- Pilot Wings (SNES)
- Zarch/Virus (Multi)
- Afterburner 2 (Arcade)

Space Combat/Exploration/Trading

- Elite (Multi) x 3
- Galaxy Force 2 (Arcade)
- Star Wars Trilogy (Arcade)
- Tie Fighter (PC)

Puzzle

- Tetris (multi) x 4

Puzzle 3D

- Cubology (PC)
- Kula World (Gameboy)

Sandbox

- GTA III (Multi)
- Test Drive Unlimited (360/PS2)
 

Rasczak

Distinguished Member
First Person Shooter - Call of Duty 4
First and foremost I will say I really enjoyed Call Of Duty 4 and certainly think it is one of the years better games. But I'll be honest - I can't think of anyway it could be possibly described as 'genre defining'. It has exceptional graphics - but is bettered by others (e.g. Crysis). It also has a narrative - but it's not strong and compelling. The action is fun and the firefights enjoyable - but it doesn't add anything new - it just refines the FPS genre.

So what would be a FPS genre defining game then? Well for the FPS I would argue Quake - which introduced us to 3D graphics, polygons and unrestricted free look. Then maybe Half Life which introduced us to a scripted scene based storyline. Other than those, and maybe a few others, a would say the whole FPS genre has been one of gradual development and refinement with very few games as standout 'genre defining' titles.

All IMHO of course.
 

CAS FAN

Distinguished Member
First and foremost I will say I really enjoyed Call Of Duty 4 and certainly think it is one of the years better games. But I'll be honest - I can't think of anyway it could be possibly described as 'genre defining'. It has exceptional graphics - but is bettered by others (e.g. Crysis). It also has a narrative - but it's not strong and compelling. The action is fun and the firefights enjoyable - but it doesn't add anything new - it just refines the FPS genre.

So what would be a FPS genre defining game then? Well for the FPS I would argue Quake - which introduced us to 3D graphics, polygons and unrestricted free look. Then maybe Half Life which introduced us to a scripted scene based storyline. Other than those, and maybe a few others, a would say the whole FPS genre has been one of gradual development and refinement with very few games as standout 'genre defining' titles.

All IMHO of course.

It's all opinions and just a bit of fun. COD4 is the FPS game that best defines the genre at this time IMO. I'm not saying that it's the most original or the most "important" (historically speaking) as it is not. It is the bench mark that IMO best defines the genre for me at the moment. It has a great single player, a fantastic multiplayer and if someone asked me - "show me a game that best displays the genre of an FPS shooter" - then COD4 would be my choice.

I guess your post has raised an important point however in that this thread isn't "what are the most important video games ever" (infact I did a thread on that subject a while ago) but more that which games currently best define their genres. It's interesting to see if some genre's are still best defined by older titles or if most have been improved by more recent releases. :)
 

Haggler

Well-known Member
I hope you 2 are not going to start again like that other thread a while ago :D

Here's my list with a couple of added catagories if CAS don't mind adding them:-

3D Platform

- Banjo tooie (N64)

2D Platform

- Donkey kong country 2 (Snes)

Sim Racing

- Gran turismo 1 (Ps1)

Arcade Racing

- Metropolis st racer (Dreamcast)

RPG

- Terranigma (Snes)

MMORPG

- Phantasy star online (Dreamcast)

Football

- Sensible soccer (Commodore amiga)

Hockey

- Nhl hockey (Megadrive)

Boxing

- Ready to rumble (Dreamcast)

Basketball

- None all crap

First Person Shooter online

- Call of Duty 4 (Xbox 360)

First Person Shooter offline

- Bioshock (Xbox 360)

Third Person Shooter

- Jet force gemini (N64)

Light Gun Game

- Point blank (Ps1)

Real Time Strategy

- Command & Conquer Generals and zero hour expansion (Pc)

Turn Based Strategy

- Final Fantasy Tactics (Ps1)

Casual Game

- Wii Sports (Wii)

Beat 'em Up (1 v 1)

- Tekken 2 (Ps1)

Beat 'em up (3 or more)

- International karate + (Commodore Amiga)

Beat 'em Up (scrolling)

- Streets of rage 2 (Megadrive)

Beat 'em Up (Flip screen)

- Last ninja (Commodore 64)

Shoot 'em Up (Horizontal)

- X-out (Commodore 64)

Shoot 'em Up (Vertical)

- Axelay alternate lvls (Snes)

Shoot 'em Up (3D)

- Starwing (Snes)

Arcade/Adventure

- Tomb raider anniversary (Xbox 360)

Flight Simulation

- Wings (Commodore Amiga)

Arcade Flight Game

- Blazing angels (Xbox 1)

Space Combat/Exploration/Trading

- Elite (Commodore 64)

Puzzle game

- Tetris original (Commodore 64)

Puzzle game 3d

- Cubology (Pc)

Please bear in mind this is IMO whether or not you agree, i'm not really interested but it's open for discussion and at least it may jog a few memories past and present :D
 

Tetlee

Distinguished Member
[EDIT]Changed my list to the list format CAS used.


3D Platform

- Mario 64(haven't played galaxy yet


2D Platform

- Super Mario World

Sim Racing

- No comment as I don't really like them

Arcade Racing

- Burnout 2

RPG

- Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door

Football

- Sensible Soccer

Boxing

- Fight Night Round 3

First Person Shooter

- Doom

Third Person Shooter

- Resident Evil 4

Light Gun Game

- Operation Wolf

Real Time Strategy

- Command & Conquer 2(Red Alert)

Turn Based Strategy

- Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis

Casual Game

- Wii Sports

Beat 'em Up (1 v 1)

- Smash Bros: Melle

Beat 'em Up (scrolling)

- Target Renegade

Shoot 'em Up (Horizontal)

- Parsec

Shoot 'em Up (Vertical)

- Commando

Shoot 'em Up (3D)

- Rez

Action/Adventure

- ICO

Survival Horror

- Resident Evil 1


Online Game

- Gears of War


Party Game

- Mario Party
 

Kahled

Active Member
3D Platform

- Tomb Raider (original/Anniversary)


2D Platform

- really not my thing so going to go right back to Donkey Kong

Sim Racing

- Forza Motorsport 2

Arcade Racing

- PGR2

RPG

- FF VII

MMORPG

- FF XI is the only one I really played so has to be that I guess.


Football

- Kick Off

Hockey

- ???


Boxing

- FN3 might have the glitz but Frank Bruno's boxing was where the fun was.

Basketball

- International Bastketball C64


First Person Shooter

- Deus Ex

Third Person Shooter

- Gears of War

Light Gun Game

- House of the Dead

Real Time Strategy

- Homeworld 2

Turn Based Strategy

- FF Tactics

Casual Game

- Guitar Hero II

Beat 'em Up (1 v 1)

- Soul Calibre

Beat 'em Up (scrolling)

- ???

Shoot 'em Up (Horizontal)

- R-Type

Shoot 'em Up (Vertical)

- Xenon 2

Shoot 'em Up (3D)

- Lego Star Wars

Arcade/Adventure

- Zelda TWP

Flight Simulation

- Flight Simulator 2004 (the last PC one I bought)


Arcade Flight Game

- Blazing Angels


Space Combat/Exploration/Trading

- Elite[/QUOTE]
 

Rasczak

Distinguished Member
I guess your post has raised an important point however in that this thread isn't "what are the most important video games ever" (infact I did a thread on that subject a while ago) but more that which games currently best define their genres.
Oh I see.

I hope you 2 are not going to start again like that other thread a while ago :D
:rotfl: Not at all.

Okay - my list then (smaller than most as I only play a handful of genres):

RPG
- Oblivion (PC)
- The Witcher (PC)

First Person Shooter Online
- Enemy Territory: QUAKE WARS (PC)

First Person Shooter Offline
- Crysis (PC)
- Bioshock (PC)
- Call Of Duty 4 (PC)

Arcade/Adventure
- God of War 2 (PS2)
- Shadow Of The Colossus (PS2)
- ICO (PS2)

Flight Simulation
- MS Flight Simulator X (PC)
 

Tejstar

Distinguished Member
I'm sure Portal will be revered in a few years time with a dynamic that may be incorporated into FPS's going forward. Could it be inevitable that this feature ends up in HL3...
 

Rasczak

Distinguished Member
I'm sure Portal will be revered in a few years time with a dynamic that may be incorporated into FPS's going forward.
Suspect you're probably right Tejstar - I should imagine a few games will take inspiration from Portal. Given Valve's speed of development though I should imagine it will be very old hat by the time it appears in the Half Life saga!
 

Sinzer

Distinguished Member
I have listed the genre's that I normally play

2D Platform

- Super Mario World (SNES)
- Mario All-Stars

Sim Racing

- Gran Turismo 1 (PS1)

Arcade Racing

- Burnout Series (multi)
- Top Gear (SNES)
- Wipeout 2097 (PS1)
- F1 Grand Prix (PC)

RPG

- Baldurs Gate (PC)
- Morrowind (multi)
- FFVII (PS1)
- Zelda (SNES)

MMORPG

- Everquest (PC)

Football

- Sensible Soccer (Multi)

First Person Shooter Online

- Counter Strike

First Person Shooter Offline

- Doom 2 (Multi)
- System Shock 2 (PC)
- Deus Ex (PC)
- Portal (PC)

Third Person Shooter

- Space Hawk (Arcade)

Light Gun Game

- Point Break (PS1)

Real Time Strategy

- Dune II (PC)
- Total Annhilation (PC)
- Total War Series (PC)

Turn Based Strategy

- Laser Squad (Multi)
- Final Fantasy Tactics (PS1)
- Civilization (PC)

Casual Game

- Wii Sports (Wii) - 2
- Warioware (multi)
- Nintendogs (DS)

Beat 'em Up (1 v 1)

- Streetfighter 2 Turbo (SNES)
- Tekken 2 (PS1)

Beat 'em Up (3 or more)

- IK+ (Amiga)


Beat 'em Up (scrolling)

- Final Fight (Arcade)

Shoot em-up

- R-Type
- Gradius

Shoot 'em Up (Vertical)

- Radiant Silvergun (Saturn)
- Ikaruga (multi)

Shoot 'em Up (3D)

- Starfox/Starwing (SNES)

Arcade/Adventure

- Tomb Raider (PS1)
- Uncharted (PS3)

Flight Simulation

- Chocks Away (Archimedes)

Arcade Flight Game

- Pilotwings (SNES)
- Zarch/Virus (Archimedes/Amiga)

Space Combat/Exploration/Trading

- Elite (Multi) x 2
- Tie Fighter (PC)

Puzzle

- Tetris (multi) x 2

Misc Genre

- Mystical Ninja (SNES) - Not sure where to put this one, it has all sorts in it.

There are quite a few games I disagree with in the list already :)

PSO - To me this wasn't genre defining at all, and was mediocre at best. EQ on the PC or Ultima Online were far more accomplished. There still hasn't been a decent arcade MMORPG online yet, which is what I would class PSO as.

COD4 - This is a decent shooter, but it is not genre defining. It's online is still far inferior to CS, I don't think it will ever reach the heights of that game, nor last as long.

C&C games - The first was a decent game, however the rest were very derivative. They all pale in comparison to Total Annhilation, Starcraft, Company of Heroes or the indepth RTS's of the Total War series. Also, Homeworld, Warhammer 40K are technically better games.

Blazing Angels - Wow that is a surprise to me! Not even a hint of Pilotwings or Ace Combat or Afterburner? Even the flying race sections in Diddy Kong Racing are most probably more genre defining :p

Gotta say though there are some choice games in so far also. Laser Squad, Sensi Soccer, FF Tactics, Elite all uber games and blasts from the past!
 

eL-ZilCHo!

Active Member
Righty, I'll give this a go, I'm no expert though...


3D Platform

- Mario Galaxy (Wii)
- Ape Escape (Playstation)

2D Platform

- Super Mario World (SNES)
- Super Mario All-stars (SNES) ok.. its 4 games, but still...
- Abe's Oddessy (Playstation)

Sim Racing

- Forza (xbox)

Arcade Racing

- Burnout 2 (xbox)

RPG

- Terranigma (SNES) Not played many, but I'll leave this. I had this and have been trying to remember what it was called for ages, now I know!

MMORPG

?

Football

?

Hockey

?

Boxing

- Ready 2 Rumble (Dream Cast)

Basketball

- NBA Jam (SNES)

First Person Shooter Online

?

First Person Shooter Offline

- Bioshock (360/PC)
- Quake 2 (PC)

Third Person Shooter

- G.R.A.W (xbox 360)
- Resident Evil Nemisis (PS1) Is this the right place for this?
- Fur Fighters (PS2) Maybe not the best..but I enjoyed it! never played any other teddy based shooters so it deserves it's place here. IMO of course:)

Light Gun Game

?

Real Time Strategy

- Command and Conquer: Red Alert

Turn Based Strategy

?

Casual Game

- Wii Sports (Wii)

Beat 'em Up (1 v 1)

- Mortal Kombat (SNES)
- Street Fighter 2 Turbo (SNES)

Beat 'em Up (3 or more)

?

Beat 'em Up (scrolling)

- Battle Toads (SNES)

Shoot 'em Up (Horizontal)

?

Shoot 'em Up (Vertical)

?

Shoot 'em Up (3D)

- Starwing (SNES)

Arcade/Adventure

- Tomb Raider 2 (Playstation)

Flight Simulation

- Microsoft Flight Simulator (insert number) (PC)

Arcade Flight Game

?

Space Combat/Exploration/Trading

?

Puzzle

- Tetris (Gameboy)

Puzzle 3D

- Kula World (Playstation)


Thats it, some may be a load of rubbish but I can only vote on what I've played.
Some genres I've left blank. Either don't know or not played anything in that genre.

Feel free to deride my choices... :D
 

Solar

Well-known Member
This is my list of games which i think define their genre better than any other in that particular genre

2D platform

Super mario world
Sonic the hedgehog

3D Platform

Mario 64
Banjo Kazooie
DK64
are there any others that can actualy go in this slot ? lol

Arcade Racing

Daytona USA, pgr and burnout dont come close to a genre defining game as this :p

RPG

Legend of Zelda, a link to the past - snes
Zelda - gameboy
final fantasy 2 - snes

MMORPG

WOW, guild wars, take your pick

Boxing

- Ready 2 Rumble - Dream Cast or N64

Basketball

- NBA series - SNES

First Person Shooter Online

Mohaa, COD1 - pc - games now have become that advanced they have shifted away from a straight FPS, they seem to be more strategic than a plain old shooter

First Person Shooter Offline

Mohaa and COD1 again

Light Gun Game

Duck hunt of course

Real Time Strategy

Command and Conquer series apart from 3

Casual Game

Wii Sports - Wii
Track and field - master system

Beat 'em Up (1 v 1)

Street Fighter 2 Turbo (SNES)
Tekken tag - ps2

Beat 'em Up (scrolling)

Streets of rage - MD
2 crude dudes

Shoot 'em Up (Horizontal) or Side scrolling shoot 'em up

R-type - arcade

FPS side scrolling

Midnight resistance
Metal slug series

Shoot 'em Up (Vertical)

1942

Shoot 'em Up (3D)

Starwing - SNES
Super star dust ps3

Arcade/Adventure

Resident evil 2 - Playstation

Arcade Flight Game

after burner

Puzzle

Tetris - Gameboy

Puzzle 3D

Kula World - Playstation, ohh the memories, just downoaded this today for the ps3 !
 

CAS FAN

Distinguished Member
Updated up to Adam's post. Here's a breakdown of the games scoring 2 votes or above so far. :)

-Wii Sports (Wii) – 5

-Super Mario World (SNES) – 4
-Tetris (multi) x 4

-Sensible Soccer (Amiga) – 3
-Fight Night Round 3 (Multi) – 3
-Bioshock (360/PC) – 3
-Portal (Multi) – 3
-Final Fantasy Tactics (PS1) – 3
-IK+ (Amiga) – 3
-R-Type (Multi) – 3
-Starfox/Starwing (SNES) – 3
-Elite (Multi) x 3

-Mario Galaxy (Wii) – 2
-Mario All Stars (SNES) – 2
-Gran Turismo 1 (PS1) – 2
-Burnout 2 (Multi) – 2
-Terranigma (SNES) – 2
-FF VII (PS1) – 2
-Ready 2 Rumble - (DC) – 2
-Call of Duty 4 (Multi) – 2
-Doom/Doom2 (Multi) – 2
-Deus Ex (PC) – 2
-Resident Evil 4 (multi) – 2
-Gears of War (360/PC) – 2
-Operation Wolf (Arcade) – 2
-Point Break (PS1) - 2
-Command & Conquer 2 (Red Alert) (PC) – 2
-Laser Squad (Multi) – 2
-Tekken 2 (PS1) – 2
-Street Fighter 2 Turbo (SNES) – 2
-Target Renegade (Spectrum) – 2
-Radiant Silvergun (Saturn) – 2
-Ikaruga (Multi) – 2
-Rez – 2
-God of War (PS2) – 2
-ICO (PS2) – 2
-Flight Simulator X – 2
-Blazing Angels (Xbox) – 2

Some great games in there :thumbsup:. It's interesting that the current top 3 (Wii Sports, Super Mario World & Tetris were all games packaged with (or at least launched with) 3 Nintendo machines (Wii, SNES & Gameboy).
 

Dunwa

Active Member
3D Platform

- Tomb Raider (Multi)

Prince of Persia in 3D, I spent ages running and jumping just to see what platforms you could hang, crawl and catch.

2D Platform

- Exile (BBC Micro)

A truly groundbreaking game on an 8 bit platform. Recognised as the first game to introduce physics. The game also had programming that featured innovative routines like creature strategy code that knew about noises nearby, line-of-sight vision through the diverse caves, and enemy's memory of where the target was last seen. All this from a game designed to run on 32KB, I even bought a 16KB ROM upgrade for the BBC.

Sim Racing

- Stunt Car Racer (Amiga)

RPG

- Baldurs Gate (PC)

MMORPG

- Star Wars Galaxies (PC)

Despite it’s many flaws, what could be better than a Star Wars MMORPG. I lost nearly a, but I will concede that it’s Everquest in space.

First Person Shooter Online

- TF2 (PC)

The original one, not the one in the Orange box (which is still great BTW). The first team based online strategy game, a breath of fresh air after all the deathmatch games.

First Person Shooter Offline

- Wolfenstine (PC)

I was going to go with Doom here, until I remembered that it was Wolfenstine that defined the FPS genre. From that point everything is just a evolution.

Light Gun Game

- Operation Wolf (Arcade) - 2

I remember having to queue for this machine.

Real Time Strategy

- Command & Conquer (PC)
If we are talking about “Genre Defining” then it has to be the original.

Turn Based Strategy

- Laser Squad (Amiga)

Shoot 'em Up (Vertical)

- Xenon 2 (Amiga)

Flight Simulation

- Wings (Amiga)

I loved the way your head turned to look in the direction of the target.

Space Combat/Exploration/Trading

- Elite (BBC)

I’m surprise to see Bioshock in the list, what makes it such a Genre defining title. 5 Years down the line will it still be held with such high regard ?
 

CAS FAN

Distinguished Member
Just as a side note, genre defining doesn't have to be the game that say first created the genre (i.e. as posted above, this thread isn't about the most important games ever or games which created genre's).

A genre defining game is the game which you feel best defines a genre at this point in time, i.e. which games are really at the pinnacle of their genre's. Personally I don't think that Elite has ever been beaten when it comes to space trading/exploration etc. so to me that still best defines that genre. I also do not feel that Operation Wolf has ever been beaten when it comes to light gun games. Wolfenstein on the other hand, whilst a very important game has been improved on in many areas (not just graphically, which isn't the most important factor IMO) and neither that nor Doom would be the game I would select that best defines the FPS genre now.
 

Ratinho

Well-known Member
CAS is correct.

Warioware on GBA, Ico, God of War and WE6:FE on PS2, Portal on 360, Phoenix Wright and MArio Kart on DS. As dull as i find it, i think Halo was genre defining in terms of console FPS on xbox. I think COD4 has done the same for next gen FPS, set the bar fairly high.

Wii Sports? Really? If we're classing it as sports i don't think it holds up against it's competitors and it's definitely not genre defining in the mini-game realm. I cans ee why people pick it though.....is bowling a game genre?
 

CAS FAN

Distinguished Member
CAS is correct.

Warioware on GBA, Ico, God of War and WE6:FE on PS2, Portal on 360, Phoenix Wright and MArio Kart on DS. As dull as i find it, i think Halo was genre defining in terms of console FPS on xbox. I think COD4 has done the same for next gen FPS, set the bar fairly high.

Wii Sports? Really? If we're classing it as sports i don't think it holds up against it's competitors and it's definitely not genre defining in the mini-game realm. I cans ee why people pick it though.....is bowling a game genre?

Wii Sports is in the casual games genre and to be honest in that genre nothing else really comes close IMO. Maybe Guitar Hero etc. but i've never seen a game sell a console as well as Wii Sports as loads of people went out and bought one after playing on it round ours. Tennis, Bowling & Boxing are all favourites and all work really well.

I guess the thing with Casual games is that you have to view them from a none gamers viewpoint.
 

Tetlee

Distinguished Member
Just a little correction for the list, when I mentioned Parsec in the horizontal shooter, that game was for the Texas Instruments TI99/4A, not the C64(not sure if it was released on this platform later though?).

Sorry, should have specified that in the first place, was a fantastic game in its day!

Didn't realise we were allowed more than one vote per category, maybe just as well as I could probably go on all day;)
 

Ratinho

Well-known Member
Good point about the 'casual games' being a genre actually. You could throw the eyetoy, singstar and some other PS2 stuff from it's later days in too. People forget that the PS2 has been catering to the non-gamer for a while too, just not to the Wiis extent.

Guitar Hero has to be in rhythm action, and it is probably the defining game of that genre, as much fun as your Elite Beat Agents, Gitaroo Man, Rez etc are.

Championship Manager 01/02 on PC.
 

CAS FAN

Distinguished Member
Good point about the 'casual games' being a genre actually. You could throw the eyetoy, singstar and some other PS2 stuff from it's later days in too. People forget that the PS2 has been catering to the non-gamer for a while too, just not to the Wiis extent.

Guitar Hero has to be in rhythm action, and it is probably the defining game of that genre, as much fun as your Elite Beat Agents, Gitaroo Man, Rez etc are.

Championship Manager 01/02 on PC.

Oh indeed, but to be honest whilst the likes of EyeToy were initially fun, they don't compare to the likes of Wii Sports for me and that is easily the best casual game out there IMO. Literally everyone I know who has played it (regardless of age) has loved it and I can't say that for any other game - ever!

The PS2 has been a good console for casual gamers (hence the great sales late on in it's life) with games like Buzz, Singstar, Eye Toy, Guitar Hero, dance mat games like DDR etc. but the Wii has taken things to a new level both with the DS & the Wii. Their marketing is amazing and even my folks have just bought a DS each this year! They would never buy a PSP or a PS2 (or any other console apart from maybe the Wii) and that speaks volumes for me.
 

Ratinho

Well-known Member
Yeah, just thinking out loud really. For all the PS2s broad appeal, the memorable games are still the God of War, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, etc whereas the Wii is all about the control scheme lending itself to the 'casual' game.

The DS is the defining 'console' of this generation anyway. We can do the PS3/360/Wii thing all day long, but the DS is streets ahead in sales because it's the first time anything has appealed to everyone. Not every gamer, every person out there.

Dementium: The Ward pretty much completing it as the perfect machine for me. :D
 

CAS FAN

Distinguished Member
Yeah, just thinking out loud really. For all the PS2s broad appeal, the memorable games are still the God of War, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, etc whereas the Wii is all about the control scheme lending itself to the 'casual' game.

The DS is the defining 'console' of this generation anyway. We can do the PS3/360/Wii thing all day long, but the DS is streets ahead in sales because it's the first time anything has appealed to everyone. Not every gamer, every person out there.

Dementium: The Ward pretty much completing it as the perfect machine for me. :D

Indeed, you really have to take your hat off to Nintendo as they have been exceptionally clever. Firstly they have got the products right so that anyone can play them, secondly they have a range of games on them that appeal to a very wide audience and thirdly, their marketing is so spot on it's unreal! If anyone wants to ever analyse an amazing marketing campaign then they need look no further than Nintendo. Using celebrities that everyone relates to mixed in with some "real life" people allows people to instantly connect with their products. Their adverts show how easy their products are to use and how much fun they are (they sell the experience of using the DS & Wii in their). Finally they have that plinky plonk noise at the start of all their adverts which not only attracts viewers, but it also (along with the style of their adverts) links the DS & the Wii together under the same brand so that DS gamers are much more likely to try the Wii and vica versa.

I never thought you would be able to sell video games to my folks or my mother in law, but they are all DS owners. Friends who I never thought would have bought consoles own DS's & Wii's. It's amazing what they have done and when you look back at where they were with the Gamboy Advance and the Gamecube and where they are now with the DS & Wii then it's remarkable! Almost from zero to hero in one generation!
 

Tequila Sunset

Well-known Member
FPS gota be the 1st half life surely!!

Football pro evo wen it was good!!!!!!!!!
 

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