General Election 2019

Who will you be voting for

  • Labour

    Votes: 39 18.4%
  • Conservative

    Votes: 93 43.9%
  • Brexit party if they run

    Votes: 21 9.9%
  • Lib dems

    Votes: 36 17.0%
  • SNP

    Votes: 10 4.7%
  • Greens

    Votes: 8 3.8%
  • DUP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 5 2.4%

  • Total voters
    212
  • This poll will close: .

IronGiant

Moderator
No wonder I know bugger all
:laugh:
 

chopples

Well-known Member
Much less nauseating than the Government sending us a leaflet telling us why we should vote Remain ;)

The letter is clearly a campaign letter, which goes on to recommend using a postal vote in case the weather is inclement.
As it's addressed to dear resident, it's also promoting postal voting to everyone regardless of their affiliation.

Is this a bad thing?
TBF Labour are doing the same, I was offered a postal vote application when I was door stopped yesterday
 

klaxhu

Well-known Member
don't you just love it how the tory lovers here just blatantly ignore anything negative posted about their beloved PM. not 1 comment =)
 

IronGiant

Moderator
I love how much you believe (or pretend) anyone who wants to leave is a Tory lover and thinks the PM is their beloved.

"I present to you your lord and saviour" Perhaps they just are ignoring someone who is desperately trying to bait them? :devil:
 

Greg Hook

Moderator & Reviewer
don't you just love it how the tory lovers here just blatantly ignore anything negative posted about their beloved PM. not 1 comment =)
I love how much you believe (or pretend) anyone who wants to leave is a Tory lover and thinks the PM is their beloved.
Yes, you are giving remainers a bad name klaxhu.
Assuming that leave = Tory and remain = Labour is wrong.
 

raduv1

Distinguished Member
Much less nauseating than the Government sending us a leaflet telling us why we should vote Remain ;)

The letter is clearly a campaign letter, which goes on to recommend using a postal vote in case the weather is inclement.
As it's addressed to dear resident, it's also promoting postal voting to everyone regardless of their affiliation.

Is this a bad thing?
I do not mind the info , although I have no need to use it . I do mind my local Conservative MP advertising though in said info . Remember Postal vote = remember Conservative postal vote .
 

IronGiant

Moderator
I do not mind the info , although I have no need to use it . I do mind my local Conservative MP advertising though in said info . Remember Postal vote = remember Conservative postal vote .
I get the implication :thumbsup:
 

psikey

Distinguished Member


 

klaxhu

Well-known Member
I am not sure you are correct. There is a clear association now with tory = leave, we had 3 PMs that said they will either put it to a referendum or actually deliver it.

In this GE it is quite clear
tory = leave
libdems = remain
labour = well, nobody ever knows!

I try and post for balance: there is a lot posted on how bad labour are, there are even whole dedicated threads for labour and corbyn. Don't feel like we post enough just how bad the tories are. And when I or other remainers post something, it tends to be ignored.

Not that the libdems are great, but they are the lesser evil from this trip atm for me at least.
 

richp007

Distinguished Member
don't you just love it how the tory lovers here just blatantly ignore anything negative posted about their beloved PM. not 1 comment =)
To be fair there's no defence anyway. If you're referring to the main vid thats going round.

He either still doesn't understand his own deal - yet wanted Parliament to sign it off in a few days :rolleyes:

Or he's just a grandstanding liar happy to misrepresent it to whoever's listening.

Like I said to someone else, this is the type of thing I hope he gets pulled up on for the debates.

Whether or not any of this affects the public's view is another matter. I still expect him to get the most votes, I just hope he doesn't get a majority. Probably the best anyone who (leave or remain) doesn't want a Tory government can hope for.
 

klaxhu

Well-known Member
rich - I agree. However we should try and have a balanced debate. But I do not feel we are calling out BJ for the liar and manipulator he is. On the opposite, people laud him for his wittiness (he is clueless, really) and jokes (he is not funny, anyway, funny as much as a clown will ever be).

Don't get me wrong, I despise Corbyn even more, but I think we give that guy just too much attention sometimes.

The same way, I haven't seen libdem properly brought into the discussion for balance either. There is this automatic association by posters: once you say something negative about Corbyn, they immediatly make you a tory and vice-versa.

People who will vote tory (and according to some polls on here that's the majority, at least on this forum) should own the good and the bads and discuss them.
 

EarthRod

Distinguished Member
People who will vote tory (and according to some polls on here that's the majority, at least on this forum) should own the good and the bads and discuss them.
A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the accuracy of the user.
 

MSW

Well-known Member
He's a village idiot and/or a calculated liar and he's not only going to be overseeing the end of Brexit (maybe), but then for 5 years he'll be overseeing everything else too.

Mini fudgeing Trump at the helm with a majority, no thanks. I just hope the country doesn't give him one.
Why do you think the rest of us might vote for what you call a village idiot and/or calculated liar?
 

IronGiant

Moderator
I try and post for balance: there is a lot posted on how bad labour are, there are even whole dedicated threads for labour and corbyn. Don't feel like we post enough just how bad the tories are. And when I or other remainers post something, it tends to be ignored.
:laugh: :rotfl: :D

You post for balance? :rotfl:

I have posted many times that I'm likely to vote Lib Dem even though I'm a leaver. So I have no idea what your issue is.
 

MSW

Well-known Member
People who will vote tory (and according to some polls on here that's the majority, at least on this forum) should own the good and the bads and discuss them.
Does this apply to people who vote Tory only or, to everyone who votes
 

IronGiant

Moderator
And when I or other remainers post something, it tends to be ignored.
Major remainers on here recently are rich, weavie, rasc, Liquid, chopples, Rusty and krish. (Apologies if I left anyone out) Their posts get answered.

Are you instead complaining that people are ignoring you? I did notice requests for you to put them on ignore after that rather odd boast you had put someone on ignore for a grammatical error. Perhaps they have you on ignore too?
 

MSW

Well-known Member
I want to vote for a party that does not exist (I am not sure yet who comes closest) a party that:

Wants to increase the performance of all schools to equal or even better than that of this country’s elite private schools and not a party who is happy to leave things as they are or a party who want to abolish them

Wants to deliver on the brexit referendum and get us a deal. Not a party who has tried very hard to engineer no deal and not a party who wants to hold another referendum that at best will be the same result or a worst make it 1-1

Has an aspiration to bring everyone up to the same level as the privileged & not a party who want tax cuts which only really benefits those who are already high earners and not a party who want to spend energy in bringing down the privileged / preventing others from becoming privileged - I recall labour saying “if you are privileged we are coming after you” (OMG). Interestingly is an MP who earns 80K a year privileged (I think so but I guess they do not)

Those are the three key things for me.

My current view is that

if I vote labour then the public become much more state controlled and opportunities reduce

if I vote Tory whilst the public still have the potential to achieve privilege but it’s most unlike because the stacked will remain.

tories could drive through a no deal brexit, Labour could drive through a referendum that overturns the last one and makes the result 1-1 which gets us nowhere

It feels so difficult and on top of that you have the personalities of the two party leaders to weigh in with (the personalities are subjective so I’ll leave that one)

I would stress the above is only my view, I’m not saying it’s fact it’s just what I think / believe
 
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klaxhu

Well-known Member
I want to vote for a party that does not exist (I am not sure yet who comes closest) a party that:

Wants to increase the performance of all schools to equal or even better than that of this country’s elite private schools and not a party who is happy to leave things as they are or a party who want to abolish them

Wants to deliver on the brexit referendum and get us a deal. Not a party who has tried very hard to engineer no deal and not a party who wants to hold another referendum that at best will be the same result or a worst make it 1-1

Has an aspiration to bring everyone up to the same level as the privileged & not a party who want tax cuts which only really benefits those who are already high earners and not a party who want to spend energy in bringing down the prillaged / preventing others from becoming privileged - I recall labour saying “if you are privileged we are coming after you” (OMG). Interestingly is an MP who earns 80K a year privileged (I think so but I guess they do not)

Those are the three key things for me.

My current view is that

if I vote labour then the public become much more state controlled and opportunities reduce

if I vote Tory whilst the public still have the potential to achieve privilege but it’s most unlike because the stacked will remain.

tories could drive through a no deal brexit, Labour could drive through a referendum that overturns the last one and makes the result 1-1 which gets us nowhere

It feels so difficult and on top of that you have the personalities of the two parties to weigh in with (the personalities are subjective so I’ll leave that one)

I would stress the above is only my view, I’m not saying it’s fact it’s just what I think / believe
I also want 3 hugs and a million $ once a week. But then, I am also realistic =)
 

MSW

Well-known Member
I also want 3 hugs and a million $ once a week. But then, I am also realistic =)
don’t get your point,

are you saying I should only look at what I can vote for when making a decision?

or

that you are going to vote for the party that you think comes closest to what you want
 
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rustybin

Distinguished Member
I've got no one to vote for to be honest.

I don't really support Brexit but I believe the 2016 vote should be honoured. That rules out Lib Dems.

I can't see see how anyone could vote for this Labour Party full stop. They're a car crash.

I've only ever voted Tory for the last 23 years.

I can't associate myself with the racist, far right minority drawn to parties like TBP/UKIP.

Rock and a hard place.
 

richp007

Distinguished Member
I've got no one to vote for to be honest.

I don't really support Brexit but I believe the 2016 vote should be honoured. That rules out Lib Dems.

I can't see see how anyone could vote for this Labour Party full stop. They're a car crash.

I've only ever voted Tory for the last 23 years.

I can't associate myself with the racist, far right minority drawn to parties like TBP/UKIP.

Rock and a hard place.
Hey that's my line for this election :D

I think the Lib Dems might do better if they campaigned on a 2nd referendum ticket. The idea of just revoking doesn't sit comfortably with me. I'm sure it doesn't for others either. But I think the main Lib Dem objective is really just to get as many seats as possible. And revoking gets them all the hard Remain vote.

And they know Labour are floundering.
 

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