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Ahem, it is you sir who keeps on moving this away from a UK election.Trolls gotta troll
Ahem, it is you sir who keeps on moving this away from a UK election.Trolls gotta troll
LOL The biggest Conservative win since 1987, whilst causing the biggest Labour loss since 1937, but he has a credibility issue Next time lets all vote for @mcbainne and see how you get on.
Trolls gotta trollOn the vote share he got 1.2% more than Theresa May got in 2017 and we've been told plenty times on here how hopeless she was......
Trolls gotta troll
Good luck with that. Moving on...Not at all, merely discussing the facts of how people voted and disputing the narrative that some are trying to portray
Not at all, merely discussing the facts of how people voted and disputing the narrative that some are trying to portray
He is making a very valid point. Johnson's majority was secured as much by the collapse of the Labour vote as by the Tory electoral machine.So what is the point of all this? Are you just trying to make out no one really wanted a Tory pro-brexit government?
And what everyone really wanted Labour in power?
I don't think anyone cares anymore except the both of you?He is making a very valid point. Johnson's majority was secured as much by the collapse of the Labour vote as by the Tory electoral machine.
I can't imagine you would be here discussing it if you didn't care? As is often the case with these things, always good to look at the whole picture.I don't think anyone cares anymore except the both of you?
He is making a very valid point. Johnson's majority was secured as much by the collapse of the Labour vote as by the Tory electoral machine.
I can't imagine you would be here discussing it if you didn't care?
As I've already said, we're living on a world where 28/32 Scottish councils voted to remain in the UK and yet people think there is a mandate for a second referendum.I can’t believe we are still having to justify a Conservative majority of 80 (365 seats).
Yes but, no but ...I can’t believe we are still having to justify a Conservative majority of 80 (365 seats).
I think referenda make this worse as they're supposed to be a 'final word' act of democracy, but as we've seen with the SNP and many who couldn't accept the result of the Brexit referendum, they just want referenda until they get their way.To add, people can no longer accept losing. It’s gotten so much worse since 2016.
there seems to be this idea that it’s ok to think, oh we lost, let’s keep pushing until we win. Generally spurred on by a sense of moral superiority.
Take any loss like a man/woman (delete appropriately).
He is making a very valid point. Johnson's majority was secured as much by the collapse of the Labour vote as by the Tory electoral machine.
Think you nailed it there..Generally spurred on by a sense of moral superiority.
Ah yes, like Jeremy said "We won the argument"
Except the ones now elected as MPs. I took a lot of satisfaction on election night every time it was pointed out an NHS employee (former) or Dr (medical) had been elected as a Conservative MP.Not to mention the NHS vote according to him!
Ah yes, like Jeremy said "We won the argument"
well its basic maths..
"Winning the argument" + "the most popular policies" = the greatest defeat since 1934..