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Geforce 6800gt/ultra recommendations

Discussion in 'PC Gaming & Rigs' started by Greg Hook, Jul 25, 2005.

  1. Greg Hook

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    Hi

    Looking to get a new graphics card for my PC, as BF2 is killing the old one I have.

    Ideally I want to spend about £200, maybe could go up to £250.
    I'm after a Geforce 6800gt or Ultra, 256mb memory.

    Any recommendations on the best make for this sort of money? and best supplier too?

    Thanks
    Greg
     
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    Blimey greg! Talk about a hard one! First, the BFG cards are rated highly but cost slightly more. Gigabyte are specialising in silent cooling cards, while ASUS, AOpen, and Gainward are all worth looking at. XFX and Inno3d are cheaper and not bad, but don't offer quite as good a bundle as the aforementioned.

    As to dealers, well, from bitter experience they are all much of a muchness these days. I use Ebuyer and Microdirect simply because they are cheap. Komplett are pretty good after sales wise, but are quite expensive on postage. Dabs, cheap postage and not bad prices but appallying after sales.

    Cardwise I would go for the ultra for sheer performance as it's less likely to fall behind as quickly. The GT is great value for money and performs well, but with the next gen of ATI and NVidia cards already here, or in the pipeline, they are soon to be old news.
     
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    Thanks for the reply Overkill. I wasn't going to make it easy was I ;)
     
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    Thanks grimoor. Looking at the prices across the net, I can't really warrant spending over £300 on a card and all the 6800 ultra are about that price.

    Of the 4 makes overkill first mentioned the best prices I can find for the 256mb 6800gt AGP are:
    BFG £262
    Gigabyte £240
    Asus £259
    Aopen £203

    Is the performance that much better with the BFG that it would be worth spending the extra money? Pretty keen on a really quite card as my current FX5800 is very very noisy.

    Not interested at all what bundle it comes with. Just want the card, don't want any games or extra software thrown in.
     
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    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Leadtek_SALE.html

    Scroll down a bit and you'll find Leadtek WinFast GeForce 6800 GT 256MB DDR3 TV-Out/DVI (AGP) - Retail for £170.32 Including VAT.

    The BFG cards aren't going to be that much faster (certainly for the extra money) but they are backed by a lifetime warranty.

    Leadtek are a good manufacturer anyway.

    The GT / Ultra cards are going to fall in price anyway with the 7800 series released / soon to be released.

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    I have seen Toms chart (a while back), and I wasn't referring purely to the Ultras performance over the GT. Yes, with new cards coming out prices will fall. However, the Ultra will hold it's value over the GT when your next upgrade cycle comes around. Even the ubiqitous 5900 Ultra is still holding up well considering how poor that range was overall.

    The BFG's have been shown to do better in particular when compared to stock cards.

    I wouldn't advise using Over*******s (the web address is removed/changed with regards forum rules on negative comments relating to businesses). There was an investigation recently into their poor after sales after numerous customer complaints. There is a statement by Over*******s referring to this somewhere.

    Please, no 'well I've had no problems', there's a website dedicated to those who have. They have apparently responded positively (I refuse to use them any longer), but they have still, by all accounts, a long way to go.

    Greg, I can relate to your reluctance to spend that sort of dough on an Ultra.
    It might be worth waiting therefore to see what the new cards are like (price vs performance wise) and how far down they force existing cards prices before you commit.
     
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    Thanks overkill. The BFG is looking promising, but I wasn't going to use Overclockers anyway. The cheapest place I have found on the net (apart from Dabs which I will never use) happens to be about 10mins from me so I will probably go there.

    Although with the new cards coming out, I will see if my memory upgrade helps with BF2 in the short term and if it does I might wait to see if the current 6800gt/ultra cards come down quite a lot.

    Cheers
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    Personally, I think you'd be wasting your money if you spent £300+ on an Ultra card. It's an old generation of graphics card now. Also since Greg's after an AGP version, he won't be able to transfer it to a new PC / upgrade down the line and would have difficulty selling it on. So on the whole not good value for money.

    The 7800GTX (released) and GT (soon to be released), incidently, wouldn't be suitable since they're PCI-E only. They won't be manufacturing AGP versions.

    From benchmarks though the GTX outperforms dual Ultras in SLI (for the most part) but its price is a bit high for most people ;). The GT version will still outperform the Ultra but should be priced slightly more 'reasonably'.

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    Yeah the 7800 not been out long so prices will hopefully start dropping a bit soon. Plus I think there are some 6800GT 512mb cards coming out soon as well. I have no idea on what ATI are up to on new cards.

    Of course it depends on how long you can wait.
     
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    The Ultra 512mb cards are already out but the extra memory is wasted on them (the performance benefits are negligible). They cost around the same as a 7800GTX anyway so theres no contest really.

    ATI is *supposed* to bring out their new card (R520) in Autumn. Its been subject to delays though (manufacturing problems from what I've read) so who knows.

    Greg, this might interest you too: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2466
     
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    Thanks guys. It all depends on how well BF2 performs with my memory upgrade (2GB). I can put up with medium quality for a while but it's the slow down that annoys me, so if the memory cures it, I can probably last a bit longer on my old dog of a card.
     
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    So do I. Hence I advised waiting to see if prices come down. He won't, but that, from my own experiences with 2nd hand VGA cards will not effect future value. The ultras tend to hold their value from as far back as the GF2. Plus, PCI-E take up is hardly astronomic at the moment so theres no need to panic on that score. Frankly, I think £300 for any VGA card is excessive. But that's just me............... ;)

    On the flip side if you wanted to go down the ATI route the X800XL is worth looking as is the 800XT (currently sub £300) now the 850 is the top ATI card.
     
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    I heard this too, that BF2 was a RAM hog. I've just upgraded to 2GB too to see what difference it makes.
     

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