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What great support you give. Thanks so much.
Don't encourage him Jules.....
What great support you give. Thanks so much.
Agree on all points.Thanks for the feedback, that's very useful.
I have found that each system here needs a different set of Voicings so I'm sure there is nothing that will be spot on for everyone.
There is also going to be a big difference in the EQ required for people using a home cinema at reference levels or high quality music at 20db below these levels. This is why you need a range of Voicings and it will require listening and tweaking for each room/system.
We also need an active loudness function............
I will upload this voicing when I get home today and give you feedback.I have tried the curves for the Harman/JBL’s research provided by Rob this weekend. My feedback based on my room is they rob the sound of clarity for music. They have quite a major impact on the sound and maybe at reference they sound better, but at normal listening levels -30 to -24 range so as to not make your ears bleed they are not quite right.
Another set of research is from Bruel & Kjaer who produced the following curve:
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It doesn't look that different. You can read about the full research here: https://www.bksv.com/media/doc/17-197.pdf
I spent a while last year mapping this to a Lyngdorf Voicing, not only looking at the end frequencies but where the critical mid range maps and the 2000hz crossover hitting the correct point.
Where this works really well is music that isn't recorded that well which is most of the 70's and 80's into 90's, where there is more of a high frequency focus. Plus at high volumes if you want to add more power to the music to help your ears bleed.
Here is the details of the filters required to make the curve.
Bruel Kjaer Curve
Overall Gain = 3
Type = High Shelf
Freg = 7000
Q = 0.5
Gain = -3
Type = High Shelf
Freg = 200
Q = 0.25
Gain = -3
Type = Parametric
Freg = 75
Q = 0.5
Gain = 1
I'd be interested in anyone feedback in there room.
Steve, here is my Music one which may well work in your system?I will upload this voicing when I get home today and give you feedback.
Steve, here is my Music one which may well work in your system?
Music Boost
Overall Gain = 2
Type = High Shelf
Freg = 120
Q = 0.6
Gain = -2
Type = Parametric
Freg = 90
Q = 0.5
Gain = 0.8
Type = Parametric
Freg = 3000
Q = 2
Gain = -3
Steve, here is my Music one which may well work in your system?
Music Boost
Overall Gain = 2
Type = High Shelf
Freg = 120
Q = 0.6
Gain = -2
Type = Parametric
Freg = 90
Q = 0.5
Gain = 0.8
Type = Parametric
Freg = 3000
Q = 2
Gain = -3
Oh to have all day to listen to music.I have uploaded your ‘Music Boost’ voicing and today is the first time I’ve had the chance to play some music using it.....and the good thing is I have the day to listen as I only have a couple of quotes to send out this morning and it’s then all day Listening........
I have just put on Enigma - MCMXC A.D. and have to say so far it is very good......the track ‘Callas Went Away’ has an extra layer of depth to it that’s great.
Music Boost is based on the Lyngdorf Music Voice, but has two additional filters which add the bass and low mid range boost. I switch between the standard 'Music' and my 'Music Boost'. I don't use Neutral for music. BTW, the Boost part of the name refers to the fact it is boosting the bass area of Music. As I am sure you have worked out.I have been flipping between ‘Music Boost’ and Neutral......is that what you do ?
I was not sure whether your voicing was a Boost to the Lyngdorf Music Voice or a Boost to the music being played?
Not sure why you are getting that. On my MP-50 in web mode on iPhone and Windows I can set 0.8 for the gain no problem. That is quiet an important filter as it gives the needed lift to the mid range.One question regarding your 2nd Filter is the gain correct at 0.8....?....when I try to enter it it reverts back to 0.
Sorry Jay, its already had to be moved around to fit in.......
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I admire Michelle’s commitment to the cause......Unfortunately Michelle won’t be around to help on Sunday because as a nurse she felt compelled to help with the current humanitarian crisis currently afflicting Marbella. Be assured she will be doing sterling work to help with the great European Rose surplus