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Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by soulbrother, Jul 2, 2003.

  1. soulbrother

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    Should i buy the R1 or the R2 ? ,the r2 has DTS 6.1 ex ( supposidly) and the R1 has plain old DTS,has anyone got the R2.
     
  2. nathan_silly

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    The R2 is on one disc, the R1 is on two discs. Therefore it's possible the R2 has a lower bitrate, and the R1 has a higher bitrate.

    Rewind mention the R2 is the better version, but they don't compare the loss in picture quality (trying to squeeze longer running times onto a single disc)

    http://www.dvdcompare.org.uk/comparisons/film_results_page.php?fid=3652

    Don't use EX/ES and all that.. just 7.1 Logic 7!
     
  3. General Skanky

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    My copy arrived this morning via CD Wow. R1, but it doesn't actually state DTS on the box. I take it that it just does have it anyway?

    BTW, I think I have the Canadian version.
     
  4. nathan_silly

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    According to DVD empire, it has DTS, and little DTS on the box, with DTS 5.1 on the back.
     
  5. General Skanky

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    Nope.
     
  6. Nobber22

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    I just rented the R2 version from Blockbusters: 2 disks and the 5.1 DTS soundtrack is lovely. Quality film too. :smashin:
     
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    General Skanky

    it does have dts.. i too got my copy from cdwow which is the canadian version... it also has french dd5.1 and english dd5.1
     
  8. General Skanky

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    Thanks. I couldn't check it as my kit is all over the place at the moment. I take it your case 'doesn't' state it has DTS either?
     
  9. evilash

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    no mine doesntt say on box and was concerned until i put the disc on... have you not watched it yet....
     
  10. General Skanky

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    Can't, my kit is not connected. I'm in the middle of selling/buying new kit. I have no amps.:(
     
  11. hdrees

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    i got my copy today with dts on the box but no leaflet in the box did anyone else get one?
     
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    The picture bit rate on the R2 runs at an average of 7kbps and very nice it's looks too on my 32" widescreen TV. :smashin: No dts ES that i can see. :confused:
     
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    Anyone know the average bit-rate of the R1 version? Was it really spread over two discs to give better picture? Or was it because of multi-lingual DTS or somesuch?

    Puzzled over which version to buy? Or even if to buy at all (haven't seen it yet).

    StooMonster
     
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    hdrees - Is that the R1 or R2 you bought and didn't get a booklet? my R2 has a booklet.
     
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    mine was region 1 from amazon.com and ive seen the film now and have no complains at all about the picture apart from the badly timed intermission and the bad choice of music over hte first battle!
     
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    I recon that it's the French soundtrack that takes the R1 version to two disks, not much better picture quality. Although saying that, this review says "bitrate of 3.45Mb/s – 4.25Mb/s" for R2.

    Interesting turn of events, it's now R1 that has the extra language soundtrack taking more space and R2 that doesn't and is just English.

    Read the review, sounds okay. Unfortunately Mrs StooMonster doesn't fancy it. The party was good though. :cool:

    StooMonster
     
  18. WillyShatsWig

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    I found the bitrate of the Region 2 to average at 6.5 and often hit peaks of 9, and lows of 3.
     
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    Yep, the music was dreadful. I didn't know they had electric guitars in the 1840s.

    On www.imdb.com it says that Elmer Bernstein's score was scrapped and replaced by Peter Gabriel's at late stage.
     
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    i wouldnt go as far as to say tha the music was dreadful, more that it was an innapropriate choice... in fact it was a s***e choice! what was with hat sentimental claptrap ending with the transition from 1800s to 'modern' day new york with the now departed twin towers.. i thought that was a cheap way at pulling at the old heartstrings and it worked....arghhhhh...
     
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    Umm since when did a movie score have to only use instruments which were available during the period of the movie setting? That's a ridiculous statement. :rolleyes: Personally I think the music works really well during that first battle - liked it a lot, especially when the guitars kick in when Bill goes for that killer blow.

    Also I think i'm in the minority who like the U2 music ending :smashin:
     
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    I agree splinter some people aren’t happy unless their complaining. Jonny why don't you moan about this visual style of the fight as well as they didn't have that in the 1840 either.
     
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    Just to clear up the confusion on the Region 2 DTS-es front, soundtrack is Dolby Digital 5.1, along with EX encoding, so for those who have a decoder should engage EX decoding!!!

    Hope that helps.

    Region 1 has DD5.1 and DTS5.1 only.

    though it does have DTS!
     
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    And Region 2 has DTS too!

    R1 movie is split over 2 discs because of French DD5.1 track. The R2 transfer is excellent, and according to my tosh 210 dvd player, the bitrate is as high as a Superbit disc.

    R2 wins this one, no contest.
     
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    Totaly agree that the r2 pic is beter but the r2 dts soundtrack seems rather muted compared to the DD one!!!Has anyone noticed this?
    As regard the output of an es/ex output ,neither are flaged and while the DD one to me sounds better than the dts,they are plain old 5.1 only(?)
    I checked the r1 pic' on a 82" screen and it looks awful,where as the r2 is superb:clap: :clap: :clap:
     
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    Picture quality on the R1 is awful. Bad transfer made worse with loads of horizontal AND vertical edge enhancement.

    Not seen the R2 yet....
     
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    Totaly agree that the r2 pic is beter but the r2 dts soundtrack seems rather muted compared to the DD one!!!

    Seconded! I watched the first disc in DTS and the second disc in DD, and much preferred the DD version.

    Normally I can't notice much of a difference between the two so was quite surprised...
     

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