Games to Blow Your (Console) Socks Off?

MikeKay1976

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That's the joy of PC gaming, 1000s of mods, most for free
I think both views are equally valid. One of the joys of pc gaming IS being able to mod a game specifically to maximise your machine potential. And this is brilliant.
Dated games but with excellent gameplay can often be bought up to modern day standards ... Even those old console games I may have missed out on at the time but are now old and ugly can look beautiful. Copies of my Wii games who look pretty grim now look amazing at 4k and stuff like Kirby epic yarn, Yoshi wooly world , and various zelda titles are breath taking. The art direction of visionary game designers but without the shackles of crap hardware.

But equally it's not wrong to want to install a game and just play it , therefore it is totally valid to buy a game , install it , stick it on ultra and judge it.on that

It's not a perfect example but I could buy a car and that is the performance.... But equally I could tweak the fuel imput and what not (if I wasn't inept) and it would go faster than the book specs.

Either way I love being a pc user and I play with my lad more on old games than new ones so modding is a huge deal for me.
 

Delvey

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but I could buy a car and that is the performance.... But equally I could tweak the fuel imput and what not (if I wasn't inept) and it would go faster than the book specs.
Good analogy but you would need some specialist tools or too spend money.
With most mods, they are simple to install and are free.
However you have no option (or very limited options) to apply mods on consoles.
 

anlygi

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:)
Just seen your signature. I went from a 350Z, 2004-2008, to a Passat, 2 kids, wife and mortgage. Funny, none of those came with the 350Z package.

Then when you no longer have to taxi them around, buy the car you wanted all those years ago, society sees you as having a 'mid-life crisis'.
 

kenshingintoki

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I find modding games fairly overrated. The time I spent modding Skyrim and SkyrimVR, I could have probably played 3-4 other titles.

But maybe I take it for granted.

The most tangible benefits I personally take from PC gaming are:
1. Ultrawide custom resolutions
2. VR (where the quality of games is in a different stratosphere).
 

Jimmy Grease

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I'm assuming you have a very beefy GPU as a mid range one isn't that much better.

I'd probably say Cyberpunk because there isn't a PS5/XSX version of that game yet.
the ps5 version gets mangled by the XSX according to DF something to look at.
 

Cha1ky

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the ps5 version gets mangled by the XSX according to DF something to look at.
That's not a next gen version. That's via backwards compat on the PS4/XBOX One version. There is a proper next gen console patch due this year (prob delayed though as heard nothing for a while now).
 

Jimmy Grease

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That's not a next gen version. That's via backwards compat on the PS4/XBOX One version. There is a proper next gen console patch due this year (prob delayed though as heard nothing for a while now).
i suppose it will then come down to 2060 vs 2070ti - i dont think the next gen upgrade will do much apart fromunlock a few of the caps, hopefully the ps5 will then actually see some NPC's walking about, also have you seen the 120hz comparison list? sony is really not about that 120Hz
 

Cha1ky

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i suppose it will then come down to 2060 vs 2070ti - i dont think the next gen upgrade will do much apart fromunlock a few of the caps, hopefully the ps5 will then actually see some NPC's walking about, also have you seen the 120hz comparison list? sony is really not about that 120Hz
120hz doesn't bother me TBH. Don't think games need it. 60FPS with all the bells and whistles is perfect for me.
 

Jimmy Grease

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120hz doesn't bother me TBH. Don't think games need it. 60FPS with all the bells and whistles is perfect for me.
this is how i was, then i played doom eternal at 1800p 120, and last light in 120fps.. i was converted. i think the ps5 struggles to get about 1200p on eternal but its one of the only 120fps games the console supports.
 

Delvey

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this is how i was, then i played doom eternal at 1800p 120, and last light in 120fps.. i was converted. i think the ps5 struggles to get about 1200p on eternal but its one of the only 120fps games the console supports.
Completely agree. The only time you don't need more than 60 FPS is something like Civilisation 6. I even capped Company of Heroes 2 to 60 FPS and I could tell instantly.
 

MikeKay1976

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Completely agree. The only time you don't need more than 60 FPS is something like Civilisation 6. I even capped Company of Heroes 2 to 60 FPS and I could tell instantly.
of course you dont NEED more than 60fps.

people have been gaming for years on far far less than that.... its a choice, super high resolutions and detail levels or super high refresh rates......... and YMMV

i know some people are ok with 30fps on racing games, that isnt for me, but that said even then, it is only because i have been spoiled with 60..... i played F1GP and stunt car racer on the Amiga 500 with sub 10fps.
given console gamers generally only game at 30fps i think if the PS5/X1X delivered a consistent 60fps in all games the vast majority would be delighted... the only ones who wouldnt be may be those coming from a high end pc.............. and in that case, there is the case for having a high end PC.

Personally i would rather console games did not attempt to deliver 120fps, because that will undoubtedly lead to a loss of eye candy... and this eye candy would be unlikely to be put into PC counter parts.
Far easier to go for the bells and whistles at a lower - still good - frame rate, and then the hook of a high end pc port could be the option of higher frame rates as that is easier to account for.
 

Delvey

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course you dont NEED more than 60fps.
And I never said anyone did.
But it is one of the reasons I don't own a next gen console. I could have spent £500 on a PS5, it would have given me a few exclusive titles but that's it. Most games are under 60 FPS and for me I cable tell. I would rather spend that extra £500 on a Gaming PC
 

MikeKay1976

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Completely agree. The only time you don't need more than 60 FPS is something like Civilisation 6. I even capped Company of Heroes 2 to 60 FPS and I could tell instantly.
And I never said anyone did.
perhaps i miss understood you... I was not trying to be obtuse.... but you literally did!.

you are right tho.... if 120fps is a requirement for you - and that is fair enough - then you should not get a console... because just like the PS4 was marketed as 4k/60 capable... it rarely delivered it, and if it did it was with compromises................. i suspect the current crop will be the same with 120.

(and just to be fair this is not just a console thing, marketing lies all the time about capabilities..... the rtx 3090 may technically be capable of 8k gaming.......... but it really isnt in any practical sense.
 

Cha1ky

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And I never said anyone did.
But it is one of the reasons I don't own a next gen console. I could have spent £500 on a PS5, it would have given me a few exclusive titles but that's it. Most games are under 60 FPS and for me I cable tell. I would rather spend that extra £500 on a Gaming PC
I think you'll find most games are 60 FPS on the next gen consoles. Its rare I come across a game that's only got 30 fps and has no option of 60. There's a few games that have 120FPS too like Destiny and COD.

I find that the difference between 30 and 60 is night and day but 60 and 120 not so much. I game on PC (144hz 1440p on a 3070) and PS5 so I have the best of PlayStation, PC and Xbox (via Gmaepass Ultimate for 3 years for £80) :) I also have a switch but that's mainly an ornament.
 
I agree its a diminishing returns after 60fps . 30 jumping to 60 is very desirable, 60-90 less so, nice but getting harder to see. Once 60fps can be reached then it moves into increasing levels graphic settings, RT etc at while maintaining that frame rate.There will be some of course - fast moving, competitive First person shooters that are exceptions.
 

kenshingintoki

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And I never said anyone did.
But it is one of the reasons I don't own a next gen console. I could have spent £500 on a PS5, it would have given me a few exclusive titles but that's it. Most games are under 60 FPS and for me I cable tell. I would rather spend that extra £500 on a Gaming PC


That £500 is going to magically give you access to the best games ever made IMO which a lot of the exclusives on consoles offer. FPS doesn't magically recreate epic classics from this/last gen like Mario Odyssey, TLOU, TLOU2, God of War, BOTW, Demon Souls, etc.

This is changing of course though with Sony very very slowly releasing their catalogue to PC.

The argument for purchasing a console from most people's perspectives for a PC gamer is never about performance - its the quality of the exclusives. I can spend £10,000 on my PC. Its not going to get me God of War now (although again, Sony might port it years later from release).


Nintendo wise, given how underpowered their consoles are, and how amazing the PC emulation side of Nintendo consoles is, who knows lol.


I'm personally in the camp - buy a console ONCE we it has enough exclusives to make it worth while. I normally aim for 10-15. By then the console AND the games have normally had a health price drop from their lofty respective £500 and £70 price tags to make it worthwhile.
 

kenshingintoki

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I agree its a diminishing returns after 60fps . 30 jumping to 60 is very desirable, 60-90 less so, nice but getting harder to see. Once 60fps can be reached then it moves into increasing levels graphic settings, RT etc at while maintaining that frame rate.There will be some of course - fast moving, competitive First person shooters that are exceptions.

Nah. Diminishing returns is clearly 120 as someone who has used refresh rates up to 240hz. 120hz VRR is awesome. 60hz feels sluggish but smooth. 120hz is like butter.


I think you'll find most games are 60 FPS on the next gen consoles. Its rare I come across a game that's only got 30 fps and has no option of 60. There's a few games that have 120FPS too like Destiny and COD.

I find that the difference between 30 and 60 is night and day but 60 and 120 not so much. I game on PC (144hz 1440p on a 3070) and PS5 so I have the best of PlayStation, PC and Xbox (via Gmaepass Ultimate for 3 years for £80) :) I also have a switch but that's mainly an ornament.


The Demon Souls footage has really impressed me with the FPS it gets and the visuals it offers.


perhaps i miss understood you... I was not trying to be obtuse.... but you literally did!.

you are right tho.... if 120fps is a requirement for you - and that is fair enough - then you should not get a console... because just like the PS4 was marketed as 4k/60 capable... it rarely delivered it, and if it did it was with compromises................. i suspect the current crop will be the same with 120.

(and just to be fair this is not just a console thing, marketing lies all the time about capabilities..... the rtx 3090 may technically be capable of 8k gaming.......... but it really isnt in any practical sense.


Yup that 8K marketting was DIRTY. I remember unboxed therapy etc. all going 8K 8K 8K... then when the benchmarks come out.. I was like wtf.
 

Cha1ky

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The Demon Souls footage has really impressed me with the FPS it gets and the visuals it offers.
Demon Souls looks and plays superbly. Ratchet and Clank is just stunning, one of the best looking games i've seen. Defo 2 games there to get your teeth into and Ghost of Tshushima is superb too. I really couldn't go without some of Sony's games as they are some of the best games i've ever played.
 

kenshingintoki

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Demon Souls looks and plays superbly. Ratchet and Clank is just stunning, one of the best looking games i've seen. Defo 2 games there to get your teeth into and Ghost of Tshushima is superb too. I really couldn't go without some of Sony's games as they are some of the best games i've ever played.



Yup. I'm just waiting for a few more games before dipping in. My PC backlog is gigantic and I still haven't finished Persona 5 on PS4 either.
 

Cha1ky

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Yup. I'm just waiting for a few more games before dipping in. My PC backlog is gigantic and I still haven't finished Persona 5 on PS4 either.
My backlog across everything is overwhelming!

No-lifing games like FF14 and Destiny don't help though :)
 

Delvey

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That £500 is going to magically give you access to the best games ever made IMO which a lot of the exclusives on consoles offer. FPS doesn't magically recreate epic classics from this/last gen like Mario Odyssey, TLOU, TLOU2, God of War, BOTW, Demon Souls, etc.

This is changing of course though with Sony very very slowly releasing their catalogue to PC.

The argument for purchasing a console from most people's perspectives for a PC gamer is never about performance - its the quality of the exclusives. I can spend £10,000 on my PC. Its not going to get me God of War now (although again, Sony might port it years later from release).


Nintendo wise, given how underpowered their consoles are, and how amazing the PC emulation side of Nintendo consoles is, who knows lol.


I'm personally in the camp - buy a console ONCE we it has enough exclusives to make it worth while. I normally aim for 10-15. By then the console AND the games have normally had a health price drop from their lofty respective £500 and £70 price tags to make it worthwhile.
The whole console exclusively only applies to the PlayStation now. And like you said, that is slowly diminishing. The PC market is too big for Sony to ignore, hence why Microsoft no longer do it.
As for Sony exclusives, I've played through the last of us, on PC, for nothing. PS now is available for about £10 a month but the first month is free. I'm awaiting the last of us 2 to be available (will likely be a while, but for only £10 instead of forking out a few £100s for a PS4 or PS4, worth waiting). The whole console exclusively will disappear over the next few years I believe.
 

MikeKay1976

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Demon Souls looks and plays superbly. Ratchet and Clank is just stunning, one of the best looking games i've seen. Defo 2 games there to get your teeth into and Ghost of Tshushima is superb too. I really couldn't go without some of Sony's games as they are some of the best games i've ever played.
I am kind of hoping Ghost of Tshushima comes out on PC.
I bought a PS3 for the uncharted trilogy, and TLOU, completed uncharted 1 got halfway through TLOU and didnt get around to the rest beyond a quick look (partly because of janky frame rate - but that said the one which native supported 3D was nice).

I bought a PS4 pro quote early on for remasterd uncharted games, TLOU games, Demo souls, and Horizon ZD
I finished uncharted 2, back up to half way through TLOU, not gotten around to uncharted 3 (very dissapointed native 3D was dropped), 4 or the spinoff or any of the other 20+ games i bought for it.

I dare say the PS3 had maybe 30 hrs use and the PS4 even less than that!., I have too many games and not enough time. Many of the games i bought for it are now on PC (heavy rain, horizon ZD etc)

I dont mind buying games i may never get around to...... but i think i am done buying consoles i may never get around to.
 

Delvey

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TLOU, TLOU2, God of War, BOTW, Demon Souls, etc.
Just checked, most of these are available on PS now for PC. And CD keys have a years access for £40. Who needs a PS4 now🤣
 

kenshingintoki

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The whole console exclusively only applies to the PlayStation now. And like you said, that is slowly diminishing. The PC market is too big for Sony to ignore, hence why Microsoft no longer do it.
As for Sony exclusives, I've played through the last of us, on PC, for nothing. PS now is available for about £10 a month but the first month is free. I'm awaiting the last of us 2 to be available (will likely be a while, but for only £10 instead of forking out a few £100s for a PS4 or PS4, worth waiting). The whole console exclusively will disappear over the next few years I believe.

What about Nintendo? CEMU et. al cannot power through all the games available by any stretch of the imagination and one of the best MP games I've played is Super Smash Bros for example.

PS Now.. come on mate.. as an owner of a high end gaming PC, why would you stream games over the internet from Sony? The PQ loss due to network constraints would be massive.

I'm all about full fidelity on PC AND console.. and sadly streaming services don't really square up that.

I'm pretty sure MS do it because they own Windows lol... so they profit either way. Also XBOX brand has ALWAYS been about brand recognition as opposed to a pure profit making machine. MS are just an absolute juggernaught compared to Sony.
 

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