And when compared to other shows, the last season is still the best worst
And when compared to other shows, the last season is still the best worst
Don't forget folks, GRRM has not finished the final books yet. So when and if those ever see the light of day, he'll have created the proper ending that we all deserve.
I don’t see him finishing it, just signed a big deal with hbo to develop new content.
I've read the first novel, but I've actively chosen not to continue with the book series unless/until Martin finishes it. If he does, I plan to read it from start to finish, in one gigantic marathon. Would take me months, no doubt, but what a tremendous few months of reading it would be.
Exactly the same as The West Wing, 4 seasons of the greatest TV you're ever likely to see, then Sorkin left and the rest was great, but not quite up to the same standard, but still better than most of the other stuff out there.Exactly this.
For me, it stopped being a great show after season 4. But for it's final four seasons, it became, and remained, a very good show throughout. Including the final season.
Yes indeed, money talks, he has no chance of finishing he booksI don’t see him finishing it, just signed a big deal with hbo to develop new content.
Agree, bear in mind his age and the fact he has 2 books to finish I don’t see it happening. I loved David Gemmell and when his life was cut tragically short his wife wrote the third of his Troy trilogy with the help of his unfinished work and some other writers assistance. To be fair I didn’t notice a drop in standards, don’t want to sound pessimistic but it could still be finished by another author, I assume he has the path all mapped out. I just pray that’s it different to what was served up by the two David’s.Yes indeed, money talks, he has no chance of finishing he books
I’ve watched a couple of episodes but it’s hard to invest in the characters when you see what became of them through poor and rushed choices.I know a lot of people say they'll never rewatch GoT because of the last season, but it certainly won't stop me. The last season wasn't up to the same standard, but it was still pretty damn good.
It's not like Lost, which I will never watch again, after the way it ended.
Yes indeed, money talks, he has no chance of finishing he books
You’re not alone, I’m sure if the actors hadn’t been nailed down with some kind of gagging clause and self preservation you’d be hearing a lot more. I’m aware of the whispers that a great many of them were unhappy with the way it all played out.I haven't read the whole thread so I'm sure anything I might say about the last season will already have been said, but my god the last season was bad. In truth, the few seasons before that were wobbly, but it season 8 was legitimately atrocious writing with excellent production values and acting.
I've read the first novel, but I've actively chosen not to continue with the book series unless/until Martin finishes it. If he does, I plan to read it from start to finish, in one gigantic marathon. Would take me months, no doubt, but what a tremendous few months of reading it would be.
There were quite a lot of gaffes in the last few seasons of GOT which many questioned and laughed about but the standard of the show and characterisation made them all very easily forgivable..... until season 8. I would really like to watch the series again but they binned too many story arcs in the end which made the earlier questions and mysteries that kept us on the hook pretty pointless. Always the prequels I guess ???I’ve watched a couple of episodes but it’s hard to invest in the characters when you see what became of them through poor and rushed choices.
One of the big problems is the way Jon Snows story arc was just thrown in the bin. There was so much potential for his lineage to be fully explored and yet his end was ignominious to say the least. Same for the night king, the vaunted golden company, Jamie’s choices. I could go on and on but for me the difficulty in rewatching is knowing what a complete hash the two David’s made of it all just to cut and run to their next tv deal. Said it before but HBO should have replaced them with new show runners who would have given the story more room to breathe. The sad thing for me and for them ( because I’m sure they’re aware about all the negativity ) is that the last season completely undermined all of the rest.
I was a fan of the books before the TV show, and that will obviously colour my view, but for me the show steadily declined in quality when they ran out of source material. Not to say there weren't highlights in later seasons (until 8), but I felt something quite important was lost.
I know it was a bit of a joke, but Ed Sheeran's incredibly on-the-nose cameo was a pretty pertinent symbol of the transition. The show transitioned from a very carefully built fantasy world with 'realistic' characters and motivations to a painfully self-aware pop culture event.
Martin's books are really not that cinematic a lot of the time- they are about characters contending with Machiavellian realism and realistic emotional reactions in a fantasy setting. His writing feels very organic. There is rarely a sense of him 'forcing' things to happen. The screenwriters just completely abandoned this to speed the show to a conclusion. It was a different show entirely by the end.
I know the feeling. Honestly, it was some of the worst writing I’ve ever witnessed.I can’t bear to rewatch any of it. The last season was beyond terrible! I’d be writing for pages if I had to list everything that was wrong with it. I’ve read all the books and I guess I’m only hoping for GRRM to finish the book series because I want an ending worthy of such a phenomenal story. Or at least one which makes sense, because the show made none at all.
Could not agree more. The early seasons have been ruined by the fact that the majority of plots that were being setup ended up being ignored. There is no point watching a show that does not have a proper resolution no matter how good the writing was in early seasons. Like yourself my list of grievances with the show are long, but I genuinely don’t care enough anymore to list. A show that thankfully has ended and does not have to be endured any longer.I can’t bear to rewatch any of it. The last season was beyond terrible! I’d be writing for pages if I had to list everything that was wrong with it. I’ve read all the books and I guess I’m only hoping for GRRM to finish the book series because I want an ending worthy of such a phenomenal story. Or at least one which makes sense, because the show made none at all.
I know the feeling. Honestly, it was some of the worst writing I’ve ever witnessed.
Could not agree more. The early seasons have been ruined by the fact that the majority of plots that were being setup ended up being ignored. There is no point watching a show that does not have a proper resolution no matter how good the writing was in early seasons. Like yourself my list of grievances with the show are long, but I genuinely don’t care enough anymore to list. A show that thankfully has ended and does not have to be endured any longer.
I used to watch every season as and when it came out and then bought, and watched, the blu ray on release... I've not watched the final season, nor bought the blu ray, since it went out on TV... This is despite saying I wanted to.. I've just not been bothered about getting back to it...
..all that said, I still watch a few choice episodes when I'm in the mood - battle of the bastards and hardhome to name a couple..